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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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BossChief 06:54 PM 04-24-2022
How is that vague? It’s a direct statement of specifics of what area he’s interested in moving up to with exact explanations of such. No body language needed this time.
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CupidStunt 04:14 AM 04-25-2022
Really interesting mock here. I found this guy a couple months ago. I like him more than the vast majority of known talking heads. Recommended for anyone who likes consuming draft content. His top 10 positional rankings are good. Don't bother watching if you want to see a carbon copy of all the other sheep rankings.

If we signed a guy like Clowney as well, this could be a total DL rebuild and help with a turnaround similar to the OL last year.

#21 DE Jermaine Johnson (trade up, only costs a 3rd and 4th)
#30 DL Devonte Wyatt
#50 S Jaquan Brisker
#62 WR Calvin Austin


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RunKC 06:24 AM 04-25-2022
Peter King mock has Thibodeaux out of the top 10, Jermaine Johnson out of the top 20 and Karlaftis out of the first rd.

Gave us Christian Watson and Lewis Cine.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...22/?cid=fmiatw
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Chris Meck 06:32 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Peter King mock has Thibodeaux out of the top 10, Jermaine Johnson out of the top 20 and Karlaftis out of the first rd.

Gave us Christian Watson and Lewis Cine.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...22/?cid=fmiatw
I wouldn't pass on Karlaftis for Cine.

Watson I'm seeing more and more late 1st. His upside is just too high to slide it seems.

If it was Watson and Karlaftis I'd be pretty pleased.
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duncan_idaho 06:34 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Peter King mock has Thibodeaux out of the top 10, Jermaine Johnson out of the top 20 and Karlaftis out of the first rd.

Gave us Christian Watson and Lewis Cine.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...22/?cid=fmiatw

If there’s that type of drop for Thibodeaux and Johnson and Karlaftis, I can’t see KC either (1) not taking a DE (2) not trading up for one of Thibodeaux or Johnson. Especially if the Eagles end up at 22 like in King’s run.

Cine is not the S I prefer out of the guys available there, but I would “get” it.
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CupidStunt 06:59 AM 04-25-2022
If DEs start dropping even a bit, I absolutely think Veach goes up. My concern was rushers going 1-2-3, then a guy like JJ starts getting talked about at 7, 8 etc, then maybe Karlaftis starts going in the teens.
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The Franchise 07:26 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Peter King mock has Thibodeaux out of the top 10, Jermaine Johnson out of the top 20 and Karlaftis out of the first rd.

Gave us Christian Watson and Lewis Cine.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...22/?cid=fmiatw
Jesus that’s horrible. No way Veach watches Thibodeaux and Johnson fall….and just sits on his hands. Especially for Watson and Cine.
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O.city 07:31 AM 04-25-2022
Unless they trade for a current DE and pay him, surely to god they'll trade up for a DE if one falls.

If Thibodeaux gets to 13, just offer both 1's
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Nightfyre 07:42 AM 04-25-2022
The athletic staff mock was surprisingly poor as well. Travon walker going at 13, penning going at 7, chiefs get Moore at 29. Boo all around
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RunKC 07:43 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Jesus that’s horrible. No way Veach watches Thibodeaux and Johnson fall….and just sits on his hands. Especially for Watson and Cine.
Lewis Cine would be a great pick for us.
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The Franchise 07:44 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Lewis Cine would be a great pick for us.
In the 2nd round? Sure.
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Kiimo 08:36 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Jesus that’s horrible. No way Veach watches Thibodeaux and Johnson fall….and just sits on his hands. Especially for Watson and Cine.
If that happens I think you will see a trade up. Why take a project like Watson? Or like some have suggested Ojabo?

If there's a snowball's chance in Hell we can get Thibodeaux do whatever that takes. He's year 2 probowl material.
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DJ's left nut 08:41 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Jesus that’s horrible. No way Veach watches Thibodeaux and Johnson fall….and just sits on his hands. Especially for Watson and Cine.
I still feel like most of these national guys use the Chiefs as bit players in other stories.

Like there's just no way he did anything other than get to the back of this draft and go 'oh, well the Chiefs lost Mathieu in FA and traded Hill, so lets take a WR and S for them...'

He put maybe 30 seconds of thought into these picks. And frankly I think that's probably 20 seconds more than many national writers give us.

No, the Chiefs won't be taking Watson and Cine in the 1st. It's not happening. I don't see a chance they take either of them, to be honest.
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The Franchise 08:58 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I still feel like most of these national guys use the Chiefs as bit players in other stories.

Like there's just no way he did anything other than get to the back of this draft and go 'oh, well the Chiefs lost Mathieu in FA and traded Hill, so lets take a WR and S for them...'

He put maybe 30 seconds of thought into these picks. And frankly I think that's probably 20 seconds more than many national writers give us.

No, the Chiefs won't be taking Watson and Cine in the 1st. It's not happening. I don't see a chance they take either of them, to be honest.
It's just lazy writing. It's the same lazy writing when they mock some horrible trade up for Jameson Williams.

How any of these national writers can look at our defensive line and think that WR and S are the biggest needs to draft at the bottom of the first....is beyond me.

CB is a bigger need than S right now.
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DJ's left nut 09:04 AM 04-25-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
It's just lazy writing. It's the same lazy writing when they mock some horrible trade up for Jameson Williams.

How any of these national writers can look at our defensive line and think that WR and S are the biggest needs to draft at the bottom of the first....is beyond me.

CB is a bigger need than S right now.
King probably wrote this before he even realized we signed Justin Reid.
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