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Nzoner's Game Room>Time to panic about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Separating fact from fiction
ChiefsCountry 03:19 PM 10-25-2021
Time to panic about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Separating fact from fiction, who's to blame and what's next
Bill Barnwell - ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...ion-blame-next

A wildly frustrating start to the Kansas City Chiefs' 2021 season turned ugly on Sunday. The defending AFC champs were outscored 27-0 in the first half by the Tennessee Titans. Mike Vrabel's team took its foot off the gas and didn't score in the second half, but the Chiefs could muster only a lone field goal in what was the worst offensive performance of the Patrick Mahomes era. If that wasn't bad enough, Mahomes was injured in the fourth quarter and had to leave the game. The only good news from the defeat is that Mahomes passed the concussion protocol.

At 3-4, the Chiefs have as many losses through seven weeks as they've had through any full season since Mahomes took over as their starter in 2018. With losses to the Bills, Chargers, Ravens and Titans, they have lost tiebreakers to many of the teams they would expect to compete against in the postseason. They're a tiebreaker away from last place in the AFC West, a division they were overwhelmingly expected to win for the sixth consecutive season. If this were a video game, the Chiefs would frantically be pressing the reset button.

Let's take a closer look at the Chiefs, and I'll do my best to break down what is factual and fictional about this start to the season. I'll begin with one of the biggest reasons they were manhandled in Week 7:

Fact: The Chiefs are turning the ball over way too often
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Fiction: The offense is a problem
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Fact: Teams are playing two-high coverages against the Chiefs far more frequently
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Fact: The Chiefs haven't been as explosive as in years past
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Fiction: The Chiefs fixed their offensive line over the offseason
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Fact: The defense has been a major, major problem
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Fiction: The defense is not one player or one change away
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Fact: Years of questionable drafts have left the Chiefs without great depth
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Fiction: The Chiefs' Super Bowl hopes are out the window
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ChiefRocka 07:26 AM 11-02-2021
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
No reason to panic. Mahomes and Andy have zero idea of what to do and now we know it. Teams cover up on Travis and Hill and can easily handle the other losers we have at WR. How many times did they show that last night.

Nobody is open.
Darrell was open in the flat all night
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TEX 08:02 AM 11-02-2021
Originally Posted by ChiefRocka:
Anyone else catch the limping when he ran outside last night. My guess his toe is still jacked and its affecting his front foot on throws and the velocity on his passes is down, hence more defections and off throws. We wont know full extent intil after the season but its obvious right now
I noticed it also. He kind of lifted his leg and winced like he was in pain. Then started trying to work it out and limped the first few steps as he went back to the huddle. I was surprised the announcers didn't mention it.
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suzzer99 11:52 PM 11-02-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:


He's got the yips
I take it back on this. I actually think he made a pretty smart play. Barring an obvious TD completion, or easy pass in bounds, the next best thing BY FAR was going down in bounds. An incomplete pass or going OOB w/o scoring was a disaster there. NY was out of timeouts and going down in bounds allowed us to run 45-50 seconds of the clock, which was huge because it put a ton of pressure on Jones that he didn't handle well.

Under normal circumstances Mahomes should stay in the pocket and wing it to Pringle coming open by the pylon. But he'd have to put that in a tight window and there's a high % of incompletion. Or he could throw it to Kelce coming across, but the spy was effectively clogging the passing lane - meaning Mahomes would have to do some kind of side-arm magic or jump pass, which is also not high probability.

So by rolling out he could try to maybe run it in, or find a more high % completion either to Kelce (which is fine if he doesn't score as long as he stays in bounds) or Pringle with a much better angle. Or worst case scenario just eat it, like he did.

You can tell Mahomes knew all this by the way he went down under pressure. Even if NY had one timeout it's a very different situation than knowing you can run that much time off the clock. Dude is just a genius about situational football. Sometimes I wonder if Reid or Bienemy even tell him this stuff before the play - or he just knows.

Mahomes went out of his way in a presser a few weeks ago to praise Tyreek for not trying to reach for the pylon. I feel like he's coaching the offense as much as Reid and Bienemy sometimes. Dude called the biggest play in modern Chiefs history himself, then coached Hill and Watkins in the huddle on how to play it.
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KChiefs1 11:57 PM 11-02-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:


He's got the yips

Very Alex Smith like.


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DRM08 12:46 AM 11-03-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
I take it back on this. I actually think he made a pretty smart play. Barring an obvious TD completion, or easy pass in bounds, the next best thing BY FAR was going down in bounds. An incomplete pass or going OOB w/o scoring was a disaster there. NY was out of timeouts and going down in bounds allowed us to run 45-50 seconds of the clock, which was huge because it put a ton of pressure on Jones that he didn't handle well.

Under normal circumstances Mahomes should stay in the pocket and wing it to Pringle coming open by the pylon. But he'd have to put that in a tight window and there's a high % of incompletion. Or he could throw it to Kelce coming across, but the spy was effectively clogging the passing lane - meaning Mahomes would have to do some kind of side-arm magic or jump pass, which is also not high probability.

So by rolling out he could try to maybe run it in, or find a more high % completion either to Kelce (which is fine if he doesn't score as long as he stays in bounds) or Pringle with a much better angle. Or worst case scenario just eat it, like he did.

You can tell Mahomes knew all this by the way he went down under pressure. Even if NY had one timeout it's a very different situation than knowing you can run that much time off the clock. Dude is just a genius about situational football. Sometimes I wonder if Reid or Bienemy even tell him this stuff before the play - or he just knows.
I was glad he took the sack and avoided a turnover or incomplete pass. He's an aggressive player, so it was nice to see him play it much more safe in this particular situation. Allowed them to run another 30+ seconds of clock and seriously hurt the Giants' chances. Sure enough, Giants were completely screwed on that final drive with no timeouts and very little time on the clock.
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Best22 02:15 AM 11-03-2021
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
I really hope Patrick is okay, he doesn't look like what we are used to. I wonder if he has some nagging injury that's bothering him. He took a lot of hits at the end of last year and at some point in everyone's life, you realize that you are mortal and can be injured. A lot has changed in these past four years of his life and given that we all only have 100% to give, what part is football currently at? We don't even really know the man, what would the pressure and responsibility of $500,000,000 do to anyone? HE IS HUMAN AFTER ALL.
After he signed his 500m contract he went out and led the Chiefs to the Super Bowl
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