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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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MahomesMagic 09:17 AM 07-30-2021
Neither Zero Covid nor Vaccinations will Allow us to Return to Normality: We Must Learn To Live With Covid
29 July 2021

The panicked retreat into lockdown and the subsequent reign of terror has destroyed our societies’ normal capacity to assess risk and make rational trade-offs, while playing into some very negative cultural tendencies. We have focused myopically on a single disease, to the exclusion of all other health problems, many of which will be exacerbated by lockdowns. We have also lost sight of a host of other social values, inflicting enormous damage on young people’s education, socialisation and wellbeing, not to mention the corrosive impact on civil liberties and democracy. Through a one-eyed focus on a single disease – one with an average infection fatality rate of 0.05% for the under-70s – we have made a small number of epidemiologists the arbiters of human flourishing, and they will not easily relinquish their newfound power and status.

Vaccination can never be a silver bullet for these problems, which can only be confronted collectively, through vigorous public debate and political activism. It will be very difficult indeed to shift mindsets and unpick the authoritarian ways of thinking and governing that have taken hold over the past 18 months. ‘Shots in arms’ is child’s play by comparison.

https://dailysceptic.org/neither-zer...ve-with-covid/

Dr. Lee Jones is a reader in International Politics at Queen Mary.

Infection Fatality Rate .05 or less for people under 70 years old. There is no emergency for most people. The people at risk for dying from Covid were also at risk from dying of old age or the flu.

Time to declare all of this over, time to shut down the mass-vaccination program as there is no Emergency. Let the old and obese choose to take the jab or do whatever they want, it's not our problem anymore. Our children and their future far more important than trying to keep people near the end of their lives alive for a few more months. We did more than enough.

And for the obese under 70 at risk, you need to start taking care of yourselves. We didn't force you to eat yourself near to death.
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Just Passin' By 11:29 AM 07-30-2021
The Wu Flu is the "moment" in history where all but the most radical of the so-called conspiracy theorists became more believable and trustworthy than the government and media.
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Hammock Parties 11:39 AM 07-30-2021
"learn to live with covid" is code for communism
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petegz28 11:57 AM 07-30-2021
Media has faltered in messaging for vaccine skeptics, medical experts say: 'They quit listening to you'

Doctors urge less focus on combating 'misinformation' and more on directly addressing people's concerns

https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-...edical-experts
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Spott 12:02 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
The Wu Flu is the "moment" in history where all but the most radical of the so-called conspiracy theorists became more believable and trustworthy than the government and media.
All of the conspiracy stuff used to sound crazy to me unless it involved the refs perpetually going out of it’s way to give Brady a handjob, but it is definitely staring to feel like maybe they were right all along.
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Ninerfan11 12:45 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Breakthrough COVID infections show ‘the unvaccinated are now putting the vaccinated at risk’
Health Jul 29, 2021 6:07 PM EDT


As the delta variant makes a deadly sweep through unvaccinated communities, renewing calls for masks and vaccine mandates, health experts say that rare “breakthrough infections” among vaccinated people are not a sign that vaccines are failing. Instead, they are a warning of how vaccine holdouts can endanger even their inoculated neighbors.

The amount of breakthrough cases we’re seeing actually suggest that the vaccines “are still working great,” but too much is being asked of them, said Dr. Drew Weissman, who spent nearly two decades conducting research that led to the development of the mRNA vaccines manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna to stop the coronavirus.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...inated-at-risk

So this is the propaganda they are trying now?! Poor vaccinated people getting Covid is not because the vaccines didn't work it's because someone else didn't take a jab?

Well, this will only work on people already in the Cult of Covid!
What we really need to do is just stop taking vaccines and deal with the Virus head on. Take vitamin D, be healthy, get sunlight, and deal with it for one season, and have the infrastructure in place to deal with it. All these stupid vaccines are just asking for crazy mutations and new variants. Enough vaccinations.

There are countries that have very little access to vaccines that are doing tremendous, we should follow their example.
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BucEyedPea 01:16 PM 07-30-2021
Inventor of mRNA technology says these vaccines are are causing virus to be more dangerous and spread more easily. Escaped mutants are developing in the vaccinated not the unvaccinated.

Pfizer is about 6 months out since first given and is in the waning phase but is replicating more efficiently than it would otherwise while Pfizer is a lower dose.

Dr. Robert Malone gets attacked as an anti-vaxer when he has dedicated his life to vaccines. He talks here about how the same issues have been the history of "all other coronvirus vaccine programs" in humans and in animals.


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BucEyedPea 01:29 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Breakthrough COVID infections show ‘the unvaccinated are now putting the vaccinated at risk’
Health Jul 29, 2021 6:07 PM EDT


As the delta variant makes a deadly sweep through unvaccinated communities, renewing calls for masks and vaccine mandates, health experts say that rare “breakthrough infections” among vaccinated people are not a sign that vaccines are failing. Instead, they are a warning of how vaccine holdouts can endanger even their inoculated neighbors.

The amount of breakthrough cases we’re seeing actually suggest that the vaccines “are still working great,” but too much is being asked of them, said Dr. Drew Weissman, who spent nearly two decades conducting research that led to the development of the mRNA vaccines manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna to stop the coronavirus.

https://www.<b>pbs.org</b>/newshour/...inated-at-risk

So this is the propaganda they are trying now?! Poor vaccinated people getting Covid is not because the vaccines didn't work it's because someone else didn't take a jab?

Well, this will only work on people already in the Cult of Covid!
Well it is PBS afterall. What'd you expect?

Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA technology, said Fauci is being quite disengenuous. He also said the active trials are funded by Gates.
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BlackOp 01:30 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Inventor of mRNA technology says these vaccines are are causing virus to be more dangerous and spread more easily. Escaped mutants are developing in the vaccinated not the unvaccinated.

Pfizer is about 6 months out since first given and is in the waning phase but is replicating more efficiently than it would otherwise while Pfizer is a lower dose.

Dr. Robert Malone gets attacked as an anti-vaxer when he has dedicated his life to vaccines. He talks here about how the same issues have been the history of "all other coronvirus vaccine programs" in humans and in animals.

He pretty much says verbatim, at the end, what I said about the deliberate repression of any medicine that isnt somehow tied to Gates funding...

This whole thing is deliberate and evil...it's appearing that they knew vaccines would expand the life of C19...which would explain the aggressive marketing of them. They want this to go on as long as possible...and have a flagrant disregard for humanity.

They are psychopaths...
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BucEyedPea 01:31 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
He pretty much says verbatim, at the end, what I said about the deliberate repression of any medicine that isnt somehow tied to Gates funding...

This whole thing is deliberate and evil...
Yeah, he also said active trials were funded by Gates.

We already know that Fauci is Gate's paid puppet.
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BlackOp 01:47 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Yeah, he also said active trials were funded by Gates.

We already know that Fauci is Gate's paid puppet.
and Fauci covertly funded Wu-han through a 3rd party....starting to see the chain of events? The chain of funding originates from Gates...and Fauci went out of his way to skirt the regulations for "gain of function" research.

The creation and solution all comeback to Gates...along with his funding to discredit alternate drugs. Now it's appearing the vaccines are actually responsible for extending the shelf life of Covid...with no financial liability.

It's the classic Rockefeller monopoly playbook...except this is looking more like a corporate soft genocide...and wouldn't you know...the major proponent for population reduction is.....Gates.

His name is attached at every step....
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BucEyedPea 01:51 PM 07-30-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
and Fauci covertly funded Wu-han through a 3rd party....starting to see the chain of events? The chain of funding originates from Gates...

The creation and solution (extension) all comeback to Gates...along with his funding to discredit alternate drugs.

It's the classic Rockefeller monopoly playbook...except this is looking more like a corporate soft genocide...and wouldn't you know...the major proponent for population reduction is.....Gates.

His name is attached at every step....
Yes, yes, I have been well aware of the chain of events. My sources have been impeccable.
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Buddy Rich 01:53 PM 07-30-2021
Now it's getting fun..

Vaccinated people make up 74% of COVID-19 cases linked to big events in Massachusetts town

Among the 469 COVID-19 cases identified, 346, or 74%, occurred in fully vaccinated people, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report found. Most of the vaccinated patients, 79%, experienced symptomatic breakthrough infections. Testing from 133 patients revealed that the delta variant was responsible for 90% of the cases.

Of the five COVID-19 patients who required hospitalization, four were fully vaccinated.

No deaths were reported.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ses-linked-bi/
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BucEyedPea 01:54 PM 07-30-2021
From Barnes on Locals:
Short uptake: buried in the data, the Pfizer study showed more people dying who took the vaccine (either from the vaccine or from covid, though it tries to dispute that) than those in the placebo group.


https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/p...ficacy-6-month

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MTG#10 01:56 PM 07-30-2021
Got the second Pfizer yesterday afternoon. I was bragging to everyone at work this morning that my only side-effect was a sore arm and a couple hours later it felt like someone dumped a pallet of bricks on me. I'm about to start doing bourbon shots for the pain, I hear it works fantastic.
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