NFL statement: “The email from Jon Gruden denigrating DeMaurice Smith is appalling, abhorrent and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values. We condemn the statement and regret any harm that its publication may inflict on Mr. Smith or anyone else.” https://t.co/b9IUku9saH
Originally Posted by cdcox:
Do you know what "real" racists do?
First hand knowledge. Grew up with them. Surrounded by them in my school, my family, friends and neighbors. I saw they were nuts by 8 years old. By 18, I got the fuck out of there.
Originally Posted by cdcox:
Breaking news. In 2021, one cannot talk like a bigot without being thought of as a bigot.
our social norms have moved in decades since I was a kid. It’s not acceptable at all. of course you can put those thoughts, feelings into business emails. Post them on social media etc. but, you will be rightfully viewed as a bigot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
They weren't caught off guard at all. Davis seeked Gruden out and had a meeting with him before his resignation. Gruden wasn't leaving that meeting still employed. The NFL was making sure of that.
Davis holds a tremendous amount of respect for Gruden. He tried for 7 years to bring him back to the Raiders. If it were up to him he would most likely still have a job.
It doesn't sound like they discussed a settlement before he left which is highly unusual. If Davis wanted him to stay (and he's not exactly the type to give in to the NFL) then why wouldn't he defiantly fight it? You're telling me Mark Davis was pushing the option to fire the coach he liked, give in to the NFL, knowing he'd burn tens of millions on an empty chair? I don't buy it. If Davis liked him that much he'd give the NFL the middle finger and beg gruden to stay and fight it together.
How would the NFL make sure gruden didn't walk out of that room not fired. Unless they had some ammo. The speed at which this happened sure see suspicious like gruden was getting ahead of something. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
How would the NFL make sure gruden didn't walk out of that room not fired. Unless they had some ammo. The speed at which this happened sure see suspicious like gruden was getting ahead of something.
The fucking rumors were that they were going to keep leaking shit until Gruden was gone.
It's pretty clear wtf is happening but it seems to be impossibly complicated to you. The investigation tagged 650k emails. The only ones that are ever going to the see the light of day are the ones leaked about Gruden. Look at what the NFL accomplished by leaking those emails. No attention is being paid to what else was uncovered in that investigation. Dan Snyder still owns the team.
The NFL is over there like Shin Lim throwing out a distraction to cover up what they dont want anyone to see. The Grudens don't know shit. They are simply misdirection. [Reply]
Breaking news. In 2021, one cannot talk like a bigot without being thought of as a bigot.
If only the standards were applied evenly and fairly across the board in 2021, regardless of the color of skin of the person making the comment, you would be making a great point.
Its an extremely one directional standard to say the least. [Reply]
In my opinion Gruden should've fought to the death to keep his job and weather the storm. The minute he resigned, he ensured that no matter what happens he will be banished to the history books as nothing more than a disgraced ex-coach. No Hall of Fame, no more coaching or broadcasting. Not even any team rings of honor apparently. If that's going to happen at least force a hefty severance and buy the Hawaii mansion in the Rainman thread where you can live out your days in luxury and peace. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
The ****ing rumors were that they were going to keep leaking shit until Gruden was gone.
It's pretty clear wtf is happening but it seems to be impossibly complicated to you. The investigation tagged 650k emails. The only ones that are ever going to the see the light of day are the ones leaked about Gruden. Look at what the NFL accomplished by leaking those emails. No attention is being paid to what else was uncovered in that investigation. Dan Snyder still owns the team.
The NFL is over there like Shin Lim throwing out a distraction to cover up what they dont want anyone to see. The Grudens don't know shit. They are simply misdirection.
But it's also drawn more attention to the redacted emails existing. I know Snyder is a vindictive asshole. But you have a lot of really smart lawyers who also thought this was a good idea. I get the distraction if a huge bomb is about to drop and it's inevitable. If not then this was either really stupid or it was intentional. Jon gruden had close ties to Allen. Jay gruden was obviously a big time insider. Why is it farfetched to think they knew something? [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
But it's also drawn more attention to the redacted emails existing.
By who? You? Me? This forum?
The NFL doesn't give a shit about people on the back channels questioning the real motive behind throwing Gruden under the bus. They care about what is catching the airwaves and that is Gruden being a racist, homophobic, and misogynistic hateful person. Mission accomplished. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
In my opinion Gruden should've fought to the death to keep his job and weather the storm. The minute he resigned, he ensured that no matter what happens he will be banished to the history books as nothing more than a disgraced ex-coach. No Hall of Fame, no more coaching or broadcasting. Not even any team rings of honor apparently. If that's going to happen at least force a hefty severance and buy the Hawaii mansion in the Rainman thread where you can live out your days in luxury and peace.
My guess is there was obviously more damaging and inflammatory emails they hadn't released yet and he left so they wouldn't. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
My guess is there was obviously more damaging and inflammatory emails they hadn't released yet and he left so they wouldn't.
Yes but he's utterly destroyed either way. Unless there is something that results in him facing criminal charges, why not fight? [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Yes but he's utterly destroyed either way. Unless there is something that results in him facing criminal charges, why not fight?
Because fighting a losing battle that would only result in more of your dirty laundry being aired out publicly is about as smart at Pete starting the Mahomes thread at halftime yesterday. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
By who? You? Me? This forum?
The NFL doesn't give a shit about people on the back channels questioning the real motive behind throwing Gruden under the bus. They care about what is catching the airwaves and that is Gruden being a racist, homophobic, and misogynistic hateful person. Mission accomplished.
There are tons of people asking why Snyders emails haven't been released. How many people didn't realize the NFL had this many emails?
Apparently it didn't work because WFT felt the need to pull a second houdini with their ridiculous Sean Taylor publicity stunt.
You don't think WFT isn't all over the news for this shit Right now? Mission accomplished on ruining gruden. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think Snyder also fucked himself on this. Unless he was already screwed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jd1020:
The fucking rumors were that they were going to keep leaking shit until Gruden was gone.
It's pretty clear wtf is happening but it seems to be impossibly complicated to you. The investigation tagged 650k emails. The only ones that are ever going to the see the light of day are the ones leaked about Gruden. Look at what the NFL accomplished by leaking those emails. No attention is being paid to what else was uncovered in that investigation. Dan Snyder still owns the team.
The NFL is over there like Shin Lim throwing out a distraction to cover up what they dont want anyone to see. The Grudens don't know shit. They are simply misdirection.
It's not clear to me. What is happening? I honestly don't know. I am not trying to be a smart ass. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
In my opinion Gruden should've fought to the death to keep his job and weather the storm. The minute he resigned, he ensured that no matter what happens he will be banished to the history books as nothing more than a disgraced ex-coach. No Hall of Fame, no more coaching or broadcasting. Not even any team rings of honor apparently. If that's going to happen at least force a hefty severance and buy the Hawaii mansion in the Rainman thread where you can live out your days in luxury and peace.
No way. He's getting a nice pay day to take an early retirement.
The NFL was not going to allow him to last. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pants:
It's not clear to me. What is happening? I honestly don't know. I am not trying to be a smart ass.
Long story short, the Washington Football Team has been under investigation for having an abusive, harassing, and a general toxic operation. They've been sued multiple times and have settled out of court for something like a whopping grand total of $12M dollars. The investigation apparently uncovered 650k emails relating to the work environment. A few people lost their jobs and Dan Snyder temporarily stepped away from the day to day operations and his wife is running the show right now, probably as his puppet. The NFL has said that the 650k emails will remain confidential but apparently leaked racists emails about Jon Gruden. So now all the main stream sports media is doing nothing but talk about what a terrible person Gruden is while the investigation into the WFT goes on page 2. [Reply]