Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs - Page 37

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

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Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

Teams As Of Post #113:

Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)
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Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Eh, I'm fine if you want to re-think it. We still have others who haven't posted their draft yet.

Hmmmm....

Okay, I'll make the trade up with the Bengals, giving up 162 and 203 for 161 and 245.

I'm also going to make a trade down with the Vikings giving up 106 (82*.65 = 53.3) for 121 and 244 (52+1 = 53). Still taking Billings at 121, it just gives me another crack at a UDFA that I like.

1-28 (28th pick) -- Myles Jack, LB - USC; taking him here in the first to get the 5th year option and redshirt him. Long-term replacement for DJ.

3-11 (74th pick) -- KeiVarae Russell, CB - ND is a good pick here. I ran a trade-up scenario for Bullard but the .85 penalty was just too steep. So I'll be sticking with Dorsey's pick here. I also thought about the higher upside play in Kendall Fuller but in the end, I'm pretty impressed with this kid so I'm standing pat.

4-23 (121st pick) -- Andrew Billings, NT - Baylor; this kid is !@#$ing STRONG. Can't play end like Jones but can probably play the nose even better. Give Poe a breather with him or put him alongside him in Nickel sets and this is a tough line to run on period.

4-28 (126th pick) -- Willie Henry, DT - Michigan; just a nice value play and if Poe really is lost to FA, Henry alongside Billings can team up with Howard and provide a nice bit of push and rotational strength.

5-24 (161nd pick) -- Christian Westerman, G - ASU; best interior line prospect on the board here and better than Ehringer.

5-28 (165th pick) -- DJ White, CB - Georgia Tech; Thought very strongly about going with Jatavis Brown here but ultimately I just don't know how I'd use him in this system. Maybe as a hybrid safety in a 4-2-5 setup but I dunno. He's a 4-3 player that isn't a great fit in a 3-4, IMO. White's a nice little get this late.

6-28 (203rd pick) -- Mike Thomas, WR - Southern Miss; small school kid with elite measurables. Probably nothin', maybe somethin'. Could possibly return kicks.

7-23 (244th pick) -- Jack Allen, C - Michigan State; I don't understand Allen going undrafted at all. I don't think Graham Glasgow is any better bet to be good than he is and Glasgow went in the third. Allen's a smart player and by all accounts a great dude. I'm not sure he can make the team but I'm willing to find out.

7-24 (245th pick) --Avery Young, OT - Auburn; I see absolutely nothing that makes Ehringer better than Young. In fact, I think Young has a better shot at sticking at T than Ehringer and has more upside at G. Allen and Young probably have a battle royale to see who sticks (if either) and it's probably overkill, but I just both of these guys should've been drafted.

7-28 (249th pick) -- Tyvis Powell, FS - Ohio State; signed by Seattle and they do okay identifying safety talent. Tall, fast kid who probably can't be coached into a Sean Smith type but the physical ability is there. Should be a nice backup safety though; more of a Ron Parker style safety than a Daniel Sorenson.
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Threw a little more variety in on this one; I don't think I saw Henry, Allen, Young or Powell mentioned. I thought about Jonathan Jones out of Auburn with one of my 7ths as well as Jeremy Cash at SS or Jake Coker at QB. Jones was just too small (though he can play in the slot somewhere, IMO), Cash too slow (pure box safety; don't care for those) and Coker simply doesn't have the production and given the microscope GMs put big program QBs under, plenty of eyes have been on him and passed.

I almost took Drew Kaser instead of White and Jones instead of Young; frankly I probably should but I don't like the T depth situation on this team at all so I grabbed Young even though I'm not sure he can actually stick there. And I just like White. If we incorporated a salary cap into this thing, I'd have done it. Colquitt's just way too damn expensive. I came off striker because I forgot that I get UDFAs the Chiefs sign and I like Terrance Smith from FSU. I'll probably try to find a way to hold onto him, making Striker a surefire cut.

So having used my trade up and my trade down, I will call this one my draft and put my original in spoiler tags so as not to cause confusion.

Pest - I also encourage you to take the Billings trade down and pick up that extra 7th to try to snag another of the handful of UDFAs that you can essentially get for free (may I recommend a highly decorated former Big 10 center with a wide open path to playing time in New Orleans....).
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