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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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MahomesMagic 11:18 AM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Yes he is.


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For now, until we get better data, I recommend one dose for healthy kids who have not already had COVID-19 in the past.


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Based on your own definition this guy has no common sense

It's tough. Anyone that strays even a bit from the orthodoxy is taken down.

Reading that made me thinks he wants to recommend healthy kids get 1 dose in the end he admits he doesn't have enough data to make a blanket recommendation.
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Bearcat 11:53 AM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Anyone that strays even a bit from the orthodoxy is taken down.
Nah.

Some of them probably get lumped into the extreme, just like you lump us into the opposite extreme, but I'd say the vast majority of rational discussion without obvious agendas at least get their due by those who aren't obsessed with the extremes. It's happened here several times lately with the force vaccination discussion.
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suzzer99 12:07 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by SupDock:
At this point I don’t even know what you are saying. This is why I can only talk about this on the forum in small doses.
His only goal is to keep refusing to understand your points and basically copy-pasting endless stream of stuff from anti-vaxx sites - which takes you 10x the effort to debunk - until you finally get exhausted and give up. Then he can say, "See! I was right all along!"
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Bearcat 12:26 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
His only goal is to keep refusing to understand your points and basically copy-pasting endless stream of stuff from anti-vaxx sites - which takes you 10x the effort to debunk - until you finally get exhausted and give up. Then he can say, "See! I was right all along!"
Did you know there was a study in California from May of last year....




....you won't believe what it says!


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Pitt Gorilla 12:37 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I like making ads.

I also know that anyone who would recommend these experimental vaccines to someone healthy, 25 years and under has zero common sense.
Explain your "common sense" angle here. What does that mean to you?
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Halfcan 12:38 PM 08-07-2021
The Johnson and Johnson vaccine has been removed from all the Hy-Vee and CVS stores in Jackson county. They are using Pfizer now. According to the pharmacist at CVS- they were concerned with the blood-clotting issue.
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Halfcan 12:42 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by wazu:
I actually worked with a healthy 25-year old who died of COVID in June.
3 kids to 1 adult got the Vax today at the Lee's Summit Hy Vee when I was there. Girl around 12 or 13 and two others, boy and girl probably 15. Their parents were making them get it.
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MahomesMagic 01:38 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
His only goal is to keep refusing to understand your points and basically copy-pasting endless stream of stuff from anti-vaxx sites - which takes you 10x the effort to debunk - until you finally get exhausted and give up. Then he can say, "See! I was right all along!"
Anti vax?

Do you realize how stupid you sound?


Why not just say, "Gibberish Gibberish Gibberish..my brain isn't working?"

Just curious, if someone takes 2 jabs and declines the third will you turn on them too as a traitor to your cause?
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MahomesMagic 01:41 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Explain your "common sense" angle here. What does that mean to you?
Risk-Benefits.

What are the benefits, what are the risks?

Talking about both is common sense.
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Sure-Oz 02:37 PM 08-07-2021
@RexChapman: Dr. Catherine O’Neal from LSU breaks down the Delta variant — and why everyone should get vaccinated.

Take a measly three minutes and check it out. Then pass it on if you feel it…https://twitter.com/LSU/status/14233...998661/video/1

This is a good watch.
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Sure-Oz 02:41 PM 08-07-2021
Accidentally posted above video twice. Edit

https://twitter.com/LSU/status/1423376894636998661?s=19
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Pitt Gorilla 02:42 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Risk-Benefits.

What are the benefits, what are the risks?

Talking about both is common sense.
So, common-sense = numerical analyses? If so, I absolutely agree.
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suzzer99 02:47 PM 08-07-2021

���� 27 y.o. Guillermo Javier Migliorini Izurieta from Mar del Plata, Argentina died from COVID despite receiving one dose of the Sinopharm? vaccine. The teacher posted frustrations about unventilated classrooms & selfishness of ppl. #SoulsLostToCovid�� 6/40https://t.co/Tx7ukqjVhZ pic.twitter.com/bEfOkTLlJG

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 10, 2021


����30 y.o. Stephania Gómez, Exatlón MX high-performance athlete participant from Chiapas, Mexico died from COVID on 6/1/2021. She was a biologist, practiced crossfit and placed third in the Jiu Jitsu world championship in 2018. #SoulsLostToCovid 18/40 https://t.co/HEmIySauor pic.twitter.com/4StBrV5uvW

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 19, 2021


���� 25 y.o. football star Deibert Frans Roman Guzmán from Beni, #Bolivia died from COVID. His father Belizario Roman, the former president of the club & uncle also died. The footballing trio lived in the same house with family. #SoulsLostToCovid 40/40 https://t.co/v5kD7J87se pic.twitter.com/gAyj1SE3I9

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 21, 2021


���� 27 y.o. Michael Ojo, former @FSUHoops center died from COVID on 9/27/2020. He was playing overseas in Serbia when he contracted the virus. He tried to bounce back, but was still short of breath, then collapsed & died during practice #SoulsLostToCovid https://t.co/leOKCggwkYpic.twitter.com/cQun9DGziG

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) June 19, 2021


Clearly common sense says these people didn't need to get vaccinated. I can post 100s more of these. All healthy, all in their 20s or 30s. Just follow the thread.
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Chief Pagan 02:53 PM 08-07-2021
Originally Posted by Monticore:
How do you know he isn't full of shit.
I'll take a wild guess that its because it reinforces his general point of view...
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MahomesMagic 02:58 PM 08-07-2021
Feigl-Ding approved.

Folks—there is only one doctor I know who has fought #COVID19 on the front lines during **all 3 peaks/surges** from NYC to Arizona: @Cleavon_MD. He’s most mad that �� are full, restaurants still full, HCWs begging for masks, while many refuse to wear any! pic.twitter.com/o3fYYQ9MKi

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) November 29, 2020


However, you don't get to join the ranks of the elite until you call one of the variants something awesome like "The Beast" or "Bone-Crusher".
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