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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Another anti-vaxxer dies of COVID
Lex Luthor 06:32 PM 07-20-2021
Give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course).

Originally Posted by :
Unvaccinated Trump supporter who spread coronavirus conspiracy theories dies of COVID-19



On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.

Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.

"She was a strong woman who believed in speaking the truth and defending our freedoms in America," Republican State Committeewoman Deborah Dugan told the Cape Cod Times. Dugan was at Zuern's bedside when she died. "I would describe her to people as a little woman but a mighty warrior."

For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.

Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).

Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and questioned whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.

Peter Meier, chair of the Board of Selectmen, said Zuern cared deeply about others. "She definitely left her mark on the community," he added.

According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
https://www.rawstory.com/unvaccinated-trump-supporter/
Donger 12:07 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Not exactly. I'm saying that people have a lay understanding of vaccines that this one isn't meeting. And people are acting on that lay understanding, and marginalizing the unvaccinated for any hiccups. And that the combination of this lay understanding and the failure of the vaccine to meet them are contributing to hiccups as much as anything else.

There's a big difference in the progression and evolution of the virus if people are saying 'I'm vaccinated, everything back to normal' and 'I'm vaccinated, so I the best we can hope is I won't get AS SICK as the virus continues to evolve and propagate.'
Sounds like exactly that, actually. If people wish to believe that because these vaccines don't provide 100% immunity, they aren't vaccines, go right ahead. It's ignorant, stupid and wrong, but have at it.
Baby Lee 12:10 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Sounds like exactly that, actually. If people wish to believe that because these vaccines don't provide 100% immunity, they aren't vaccines, go right ahead. It's ignorant, stupid and wrong, but have at it.
See, you're focused on what some people think about the definition of vaccine. And I'm pointing out how people who get the vaccine ACT based on their misapprehension of what being vaccinated means.
Prison Bitch 12:12 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Ninerfan11:
sounds about right tbh. Sharp guy.
I truly cannot understand you guys. The Vax is your ticket to freedom - your *only* one. When you attack the Vax you’re attacking your ticket. You’re just begging the State to keep imposing lockdowns, mask mandates, on and on.


The reason we re-opened in May is becasue people like me got vaxxed. It wasn’t becasue you won some type of badass, Wild West type of staredown with The Man.
Donger 12:12 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
See, you're focused on what some people think about the definition of vaccine. And I'm pointing out how people who get the vaccine ACT based on their misapprehension of what being vaccinated means.
Yes, I am because that is what that Alex person was trying to claim: that these aren't vaccines.

They are.
lawrenceRaider 12:13 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Wtf are you even arguing? That becasue the Vax isn’t 100% at preventing *anything* the argument therefore must “shift”?


For what possible reason? If anyone “shifts” the debate from the Vax efficacy (which is truly incredible) to something else, then they’re a dipshit.
You have to remember how many of these people are experiencing extreme cognitive dissonance. Their favorite media personalities are peddling the anti-vax baloney, yet they already got their shot.

They "know" they did the right thing, but now must find a reason why it wasn't worth it and the whole is a bunch of BS.

Much like how many of them still worship Trump.
Baby Lee 12:14 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
You have to remember how many of these people are experiencing extreme cognitive dissonance. Their favorite media personalities are peddling the anti-vax baloney, yet they already got their shot.

They "know" they did the right thing, but now must find a reason why it wasn't worth it and the whole is a bunch of BS.

Much like how many of them still worship Trump.
You're a fucking idiot.
lawrenceRaider 12:18 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
I'm a fucking idiot.
Yes you are. On this topic anyway.
Baby Lee 12:20 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Yes you are. On this topic anyway.
Keep writing your fanfic. Just always remember it's fiction, that you wrote, in your own head.
Prison Bitch 12:26 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
You have to remember how many of these people are experiencing extreme cognitive dissonance. Their favorite media personalities are peddling the anti-vax baloney, yet they already got their shot.

They "know" they did the right thing, but now must find a reason why it wasn't worth it and the whole is a bunch of BS.

Much like how many of them still worship Trump.
On a base level, we have a phenomenon where both ends of the IQ distribution fear the Vax. Dumb people we can excuse for just being dumb.....but the intelligent ones we cannot. They believe they can “out-think” what is a very simple topic.


On a broader level, the med community and the Dem Party turned it political from Day 1 and wrecked their credibility with 1/2 the country. Ok to mass riot and celebrate Biden’s win, but not for neighborhood picnics. At least some hesitancy is nothing more than “owning da libs”
Ninerfan11 12:30 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I truly cannot understand you guys. The Vax is your ticket to freedom
I live right next to SF. Above 70-80% vaccination rate...absolute full lockdown. Need proof for any gathering...more strict lockdown coming guaranteed (it's seasonal). They aren't being honest when they say it will lead to freedom...chit, look at Israel, now a new high for cases, HIGH vaccination rates, now another lockdown imminent. There is no logic behind their restrictions.

Also, why are they forcing kids to get it? None of it makes any sense. Why would we ever need to wear a mask outdoors? If they would just be honest and logical about the situation, it would be a much easier decision for all involved.
Prison Bitch 12:34 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Ninerfan11:
I live right next to SF. Above 70-80% vaccination rate...absolute full lockdown. Need proof for any gathering...more strict lockdown coming guaranteed (it's seasonal). They aren't being honest when they say it will lead to freedom...chit, look at Israel, now a new high for cases, HIGH vaccination rates, now another lockdown imminent. There is no logic behind their restrictions.

Also, why are they forcing kids to get it? None of it makes any sense. Why would we ever need to wear a mask outdoors? If they would just be honest and logical about the situation, it would be a much easier decision for all involved.

Shitlibs are never gonna let go of COVID. Itís part of their identity now and forevermore.


The other 75% of Americans can ignore them with ease. IF - and only if - the Vax is seen as highly effective. Attacking the Vax ends any dream of freedom so why do it?
Ninerfan11 12:34 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
On a base level, we have a phenomenon where both ends of the IQ distribution fear the Vax. Dumb people we can excuse for just being dumb.....but the intelligent ones we cannot.
Each individual has a unique health profile. Some are fat and unhealthy, or old. Each person also has different experiences with the vax (for me, my father had to be hospitalized and has never been the same...my cousin got a disorder where his adrenaline was going nuts and he felt like he was having a heart attack...nurses told him they are seeing this more and more but it's not being reported).
morphius 12:43 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Have they determined if the vaccine caused his death?
Yeah, I'm going to open up that wound with his parents I don't know that well, friend of my sons. Chances of healthy, in shape, teenager dying of a heart attack while not doing something seriously strenuous is pretty low. Given what we know about the "safe" vaccine and heart conditions they cause.
lawrenceRaider 12:44 PM 08-30-2021
One of you anti-vaxxer Ivermectin types.

https://news.yahoo.com/georgia-polic...002845080.html
lawrenceRaider 12:45 PM 08-30-2021
Originally Posted by morphius:
Yeah, I'm going to open up that wound with his parents I don't know that well, friend of my sons. Chances of healthy, in shape, teenager dying of a heart attack while not doing something seriously strenuous is pretty low. Given what we know about the "safe" vaccine and heart conditions they cause.
Right, in other words you are clueless as to what really happened are gloming onto the tragedy to push your agenda.
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