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Lenny "The Cool" Lounge>Frank Clark fucking sucks
RealSNR 02:33 PM 09-15-2019
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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-King- 11:28 AM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
PFF Edge Rusher rankings:

Danna: 34 of 109
Dunlap: 68 of 109
Karlaftis: 99 of 109
Clark: 103 of 109

KC might have the worst edge rush group in the NFL. Clark might want to start drinking again.
It's a good Chris Jones, our LBs and DBs are all playing at great to elite levels cause fucking sheesh!
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Hammock Parties 11:35 AM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
PFF Edge Rusher rankings:

Danna: 34 of 109
Dunlap: 68 of 109
Karlaftis: 99 of 109
Clark: 103 of 109

KC might have the worst edge rush group in the NFL. Clark might want to start drinking again.
fuck PFF, our pressure percentage is tops in the league
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staylor26 11:58 AM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
PFF Edge Rusher rankings:

Danna: 34 of 109
Dunlap: 68 of 109
Karlaftis: 99 of 109
Clark: 103 of 109

KC might have the worst edge rush group in the NFL. Clark might want to start drinking again.
:-)

Imagine basing an entire take around PFF grades
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Gary Cooper 12:20 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
PFF Edge Rusher rankings:

Danna: 34 of 109
Dunlap: 68 of 109
Karlaftis: 99 of 109
Clark: 103 of 109

KC might have the worst edge rush group in the NFL. Clark might want to start drinking again.
Yikes. Karlaftis is a rookie but so are other players in that list of 109. Shows you how the preseason means nothing.
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-King- 12:35 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
:-)

Imagine basing an entire take around PFF grades
Pff is terrible but our DEs haven't been good. Our defense is all about the DTs and the back seven playing great. It's why we have to blitz so much and our leading sacker is Sneed. DEs are the only weak point in our defense.
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staylor26 12:53 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by JudasRising20:
Yikes. Karlaftis is a rookie but so are other players in that list of 109. Shows you how the preseason means nothing.
Karlaftis had 9 pressures in the first couple games, and had a top 10 pas rush win rate in week 4.

It doesn't make any sense that his grade is that low.

But feel free to judge based entirely on a meaningless PFF grade.
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staylor26 12:54 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by -King-:
Pff is terrible but our DEs haven't been good. Our defense is all about the DTs and the back seven playing great. It's why we have to blitz so much and our leading sacker is Sneed. DEs are the only weak point in our defense.
They haven't been good, but I don't believe they've been as bad as those grades would indicate either.

Danna and Karlaftis have been very similar in terms of getting pressure, yet those grades don't reflect that at all.
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JPH83 01:02 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They haven't been good, but I don't believe they've been as bad as those grades would indicate either.

Danna and Karlaftis have been very similar in terms of getting pressure, yet those grades don't reflect that at all.
I mean which parts do you disagree with? Presumably the Karlaftis grade. Clark has been atrocious, Danna has been surprisingly good, Dunlap has been middle-of-the-pack. Sounds pretty much what we've all seen and said. I've tried to focus on Karlaftis and to be honest, I don't think they're right, but equally I don't think he's been that great against the run, which it looks like is where they're graded him poorly.

Our DEs might not be the worst, and I'm confident Karlaftis improves a LOT. But there are also a LOT of teams with better DEs.
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staylor26 01:05 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by JPH83:
I mean which parts do you disagree with? Presumably the Karlaftis grade. Clark has been atrocious, Danna has been surprisingly good, Dunlap has been middle-of-the-pack. Sounds pretty much what we've all seen and said. I've tried to focus on Karlaftis and to be honest, I don't think they're right, but equally I don't think he's been that great against the run, which it looks like is where they're graded him poorly.

Our DEs might not be the worst, and I'm confident Karlaftis improves a LOT. But there are also a LOT of teams with better DEs.
Yes.

I specifically pointed out the gap between Danna and Karlaftis.
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JPH83 01:10 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Yes.

I specifically pointed out the gap between Danna and Karlaftis.
Fair enough, so you're broadly in agreement with the rest. What's your assessment of Karlaftis so far?
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threebag 01:48 PM 10-07-2022
At this point, I don’t think even an uzi could help his game.
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Red Dawg 02:00 PM 10-07-2022
Pass rush sucks balls. We knew this before the season.
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Imon Yourside 02:05 PM 10-07-2022
Whatever you do, do NOT go after Pete Carrols leftovers...Never again(I hope) :-)
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JPH83 03:09 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Whatever you do, do NOT go after Pete Carrols leftovers...Never again(I hope) :-)
Yep. Reed was hot trash too.
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BWillie 04:09 PM 10-07-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Karlaftis had 9 pressures in the first couple games, and had a top 10 pas rush win rate in week 4.

It doesn't make any sense that his grade is that low.

But feel free to judge based entirely on a meaningless PFF grade.
I think pressures are more important than sacks. Take mobile QBs like Lamar, Allen, Hurts, Mahomes etc. Once you get to him, you can't just dive blindly. Your goal is to contain so he cant make a miraculous play. Once you get your pressure you play these QBs differently than the statues like Joe Burrow and Tom Brady. With that said would be nice to see Karlaftis get some sakkkks
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