You have to also realize that doctors have political positions. It's not like they all understand economics or have studied public policy enough. Dr. Atlas has that kind of background. And that's the problem with using "experts" educated too narrowly. There is no balance or perspective.

Then we John Hopkins doctors who have been in the camp for the UN 2030 agenda. Doctors and healthcare workers do politic and advance the cause of the state and reduce liberty or even safety. We saw that in fascist Germany. We can see it with that experimental vaccine given to the military that spawned the Spanish Flu. We can see that with the Tuskagee situation on African-Americans. Doctors in service to the state do not always have noble goals. A little history helps to know.
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What in the fuck does that have to do with me finding out my uncle has a clinic in fresno or me wondering if he's getting the vaccine early or not?
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It doesn't. I just chose that to respond to your general implication of knowing a doctor to boost your claims.
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What claims? I've made no claims about the vaccine. And I've already stated I rarely talk to my uncle.
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Lockdowns and draconian mask mandates are no longer feasible.

Most of the high risk population will be vaccinated within the next few weeks and those who cannot will need to self-quarantine until they get the vaccine.
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I will say in this thread that I have a bit more confidence in the PFE vaccine than the MRNA one.

MRNA just a very new company, no track record, and putting the board member on the Operation Warp Speed seems like a conflict of interest.

I would much prefer to take the PFE if available.

I think MRNA's vaccine may work in the abstract, but more concerned with QC.
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Calling a mask mandate "draconian" is just plain stupid. It's a common sense precaution that would be incredibly easy to implement if Trump hadn't decided to turn mask-wearing into a political statement.
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You'll most likely be getting a placebo or Vitamin-B shot, so stop worrying.
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Or, they could just keep wearing a mask and other mitigation efforts until the vaccines are widely-available, as we know that wearing a mask helps prevent the spread of COVID-19.

Your plan is foolish. Going for herd immunity without a vaccine was and is foolish.
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I'm still up for taking the vaccine, too bad healthy people won't see it for a long long time.
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:-)
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That was a joke, sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Where are you in line for getting your first shot?
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I signed up for it via the VA. Said they’d let me know when it becomes available.
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Our state doesn't have any lines or plans except to get it to health care workers right now that I am aware of.
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I've signed up. Hoping to get it in the next month.
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