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royr17 07:27 PM 02-20-2005
Ok lets start here.

I need some help with some things i need to know on gettin married, the do's, the dont's, the things you need to know about that.

I see you guys here some are married some arent so the ones that know stuff i need to know let me know about it.

So what are the things i should know about it, cause i dont wanna wait my whole life to get married, i actually wanna be married before i turn 26 which is 6 years from now.

But I wanna get started early in startin a family, so what are the do's and dont's in marriage ???
Phobia 03:12 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Chico Diablo:
It's not bullsh*t, but thanks anyway...kind of.
I can't wait until you turn 18 because we're gonna give you the best blanket party in the history of mankind. Bearcat is gonna let us in, too.
Rausch 03:19 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Phobia:
I can't wait until you turn 18 because we're gonna give you the best blanket party in the history of mankind. Bearcat is gonna let us in, too.
I think it'd be much more fun to get him sideways-drunk and hook him up with an insanely large young lady.

Knowing full well half the ****ers on this BB have digital cameras...
unlurking 03:23 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I think it'd be much more fun to get him sideways-drunk and hook him up with an insanely large young lady.

Knowing full well half the ****ers on this BB have digital cameras...
Actually, why don't we just give him to DenverChief? Maybe there is one real lover PER SEX in the world for everyone?!

:-)
Bearcat 03:26 PM 02-21-2005
Of course it's going to be rare for two people who are connected to find each other and it's a good reason to not even bother searching, but it does exist. Of course, if it feels better to just not find that connection, then by all means go ahead and keep the blind attractions for others. Such attractions can make people happy, but it's not going to be true happiness.

Don't give me that "just because it's hard to imagine"... [sarcasm]I invented that[/sarcasm]. How do you know such a thing exists? I don't want to hear "how do you not?"... How do you know that that's how love works?

And do you know how condescending "if it feels better to just not find that connection, ..." sounds? [more sarcasm]Well, I'm glad at 17 years old YOU, of all people, have found what love is all about.[/sarcasm] Everyone on Chiefsplanet that has a SO should be lining up to punch you in the face right now for coming off like you're the wise one that knows they aren't truly happy.

You don't know shit, so stop acting like you do.



It's a mindsets established by others that say "you should find the person who makes you truly happy" and "this is what that person should be like:..." that create the idea of "I should be attracted to this person, and that person, and that person...." As for shutting it off, you're not the one to shut it off...it's like those computers that shut down when a specific something is sensed.

No, it's not. If the mindset of who we should be happy with was created by society, everyone would be heterosexual.
Bearcat 03:28 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by unlurking:
Actually, why don't we just give him to DenverChief? Maybe there is one real lover PER SEX in the world for everyone?!

:-)
:-):-)
Rausch 03:29 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by unlurking:
Actually, why don't we just give him to DenverChief? Maybe there is one real lover PER SEX in the world for everyone?!

:-)
You're completely ignoring the point here, which is us being entertained by his humiliation.

I don't want digital pics of DC's "oh face."
unlurking 03:30 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Rausch:
You're completely ignoring the point here, which is us being entertained by his humiliation.

I don't want digital pics of DC's "oh face."
:-)

:-)
Slayer Diablo 03:41 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
You might as well be arguing that there is an Easter bunny, because no, I don't have proof that there's no Easter bunny, but that doesn't make your claim that there is one anything less than complete BS.

I go to Capital Grille. I'm not going to wake up the next morning and have no desire to ever eat a steak at the Outback or anywhere else. (don't argue that I'm not truly in love with the steak, because that's not the point... and I am! :-) ). It's the same thing. Preferences change, but a switch isn't thrown one day and you say "I only have eyes for you". Anyone that has ever said that is full of it. You can't be attracted to one person, yet find those same set of qualities unattractive in someone else.
You completely missed the point. We are talking possibility, not probability. I've already told you that it is rare, bro. When something is rare, you're probably not going to just run into it although it is still possible. For instance, someone has a 1/100,000,000 chance of winning the lottery...they're probably not going to win, but it is still possible. And by the way, I'm just accepting your analogy for the sake of agrument...truly, it doesn't work because you cannot love an object.

Originally Posted by :
No, it's a high school feeling to even think it. Through thick or thin, sickness and health... sure. Eternity of pain for a split second of company? That's either high school or a really bad monster ballad.
It's just a more extreme way of saying that you'll stick with the person no matter what...same basic idea as the vows, just a little more condensed and extreme.

Sure it does..... Before people take love advice from anyone, they like to know where that advice is coming from.

This discussion had absolutely no advice in it other than the concept of "don't base your own decisions off of my definition"...it was separate from what I had been telling III.

Originally Posted by :
This is weak and you know it. Pointing out a mathematical fact is FAR different from stating a fact on love. When someone says something is a fact about a subject as ...what's the word... a subject like love, you're implying you either know an awful lot about love or have had quite a bit of experience in love.
The point is that you can know a lot about a subject and not be an expert. There's nothing more for me to say on this except that I reference you to what you were quoting.

Originally Posted by :
Sure -- Psicosis. For a long time I thought he was as old or older than me, because (sometimes) he can act like it. Knowing that he's your age hasn't changed anything, because he can still (sometimes) act older than he is. It's not age. It's you :-)
But his age had to be assumed by you so that you could accept it, and then you found out that he was about my age. Besides, we all have times when we act older/younger than we really are...our brother was even in shock one time because of something I said and he basically said, "Slayer, that was a lucid, intelligent observation, and you both acted and sounded like you were 30 when you said it." So please, I'm still waiting for an example that disproves my statement.
Pezman 03:41 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by FloridaChief:
Every time I think I've seen the nadir of this BB, inevitably someone grabs a shovel and digs for China...
Originally Posted by royr17:
I dont think this thread was good idea.

:-) This thread rules...
RedNFeisty 03:50 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by badgirl:
Red what are ya up for to save this boys future? :-)
Don't look at me! :-) :-)
RedNFeisty 03:52 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by badgirl:
Ok everyone interested just sign up below. :-)

Looks like you guys need a lot of help, thank God I can count on Red to help me out. :-)
Hey, hey, hey now! Speak for yourself sweetheart!!
Bearcat 04:06 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by :
The point is that you can know a lot about a subject and not be an expert. There's nothing more for me to say on this except that I reference you to what you were quoting.
It's the "you can know a lot about a subject" that you keep dodging.


From what I've read, you had these "flings", and in the end you came to a sitcom-like conclusion that the one for me was under my nose the entire time. You've taken this one measley high school experience and have created an ideology for mankind on love, that has no resemblance to what actually happens.


You really are too young to be a bitter old man, so quit it.
Slayer Diablo 04:10 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
Don't give me that "just because it's hard to imagine"... [sarcasm]I invented that[/sarcasm]. How do you know such a thing exists? I don't want to hear "how do you not?"... How do you know that that's how love works?
Keep in mind that you're the one who couldn't belive my universe theory just because it was "impossible" to have an infinite number of the universes...which, by the way, I later found out had been discussed by a philosopher and a movie had been made on the concept. Interesting. Anyway, there's only one way anyone knows that something exists, and I shouldn't have to tell you what that is.

Originally Posted by :
And do you know how condescending "if it feels better to just not find that connection, ..." sounds? [more sarcasm]Well, I'm glad at 17 years old YOU, of all people, have found what love is all about.[/sarcasm] Everyone on Chiefsplanet that has a SO should be lining up to punch you in the face right now for coming off like you're the wise one that knows they aren't truly happy.

You don't know shit, so stop acting like you do.
It's mostly a concept of perception for that quote...if you have known the connection and know what it feels like, then you can compare the two and there's absolutely no condescention; however, if you want to be all like "Now I feel like sh*t because I haven't found that connection to be able to compare", then I could understand your point. Furthermore, I never state that I know what it is all about...which is why I stated the in the first mention of my defintion that I was leaving a lot out, and later quoted Socrates to Phobia by saying "All that I know is that I know nothing."

Originally Posted by :
No, it's not. If the mindset of who we should be happy with was created by society, everyone would be heterosexual.
Not necessarily...for instance, a boy could be heavily influenced in the womb and directly after birth by women who constantly have shallow conversations about their desires for men. Not to say that is how it happens, of course. Besides, keep in mind that I said there are people who break away from what society says to question the way things work...not everyone is going to go toward the same conclusion once they break away. For instance, there's a society where the vast majority is moderate...a small group of people break away to become liberal and ask liberal questions while another small group breaks away to become conservative and ask conservative questions.
Slayer Diablo 04:15 PM 02-21-2005
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
It's the "you can know a lot about a subject" that you keep dodging.


From what I've read, you had these "flings", and in the end you came to a sitcom-like conclusion that the one for me was under my nose the entire time. You've taken this one measley high school experience and have created an ideology for mankind on love, that has no resemblance to what actually happens.


You really are too young to be a bitter old man, so quit it.
Ugh...once again (I think I've said this before, anyway), it's not a common experience...not to mention being formed by many experiences. E pluribus Unum--From many, One.
Bearcat 04:29 PM 02-21-2005
Keep in mind that you're the one who couldn't belive my universe theory just because it was "impossible" to have an infinite number of the universes...which, by the way, I later found out had been discussed by a philosopher and a movie had been made on the concept. Interesting. Anyway, there's only one way anyone knows that something exists, and I shouldn't have to tell you what that is.

It was much more about not needing to believe it. It might be cool to wonder "what if it happens like this", but something so that's so complicated, yet has no basis whatsoever, doesn't need to be proven to or not to exist.

It's mostly a concept of perception for that quote...if you have known the connection and know what it feels like, then you can compare the two and there's absolutely no condescention; however, if you want to be all like "Now I feel like sh*t because I haven't found that connection to be able to compare", then I could understand your point. Furthermore, I never state that I know what it is all about...which is why I stated the in the first mention of my defintion that I was leaving a lot out, and later quoted Socrates to Phobia by saying "All that I know is that I know nothing."

It's not about "I feel like sh*t because I haven't found that connection..." ... it's about taking someone else's relationship and telling them that they aren't truly happy because YOU know what it's like to be truly happy (and being 17 has something to do with that, like it or not). And by saying "by all means, blindly be attracted by someone else", you're basically telling the vast majority of people that they aren't truly happy.

Not necessarily...for instance, a boy could be heavily influenced in the womb and directly after birth by women who constantly have shallow conversations about their desires for men. Not to say that is how it happens, of course. Besides, keep in mind that I said there are people who break away from what society says to question the way things work...not everyone is going to go toward the same conclusion once they break away. For instance, there's a society where the vast majority is moderate...a small group of people break away to become liberal and ask liberal questions while another small group breaks away to become conservative and ask conservative questions.

You're seriously complicating something that isn't that hard to understand.
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