Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Russell Wilson isn't elite anymore but he's still pretty good, far better than garbage they've had at QB the past couple seasons. It's worth the risk.
You guys are just hating because he went to Broncos.
It definitely moves the needle for their offense but their defense is going to take a step back this year. [Reply]
This really forces Denver into win now mode, but man I believe in Russell Wilson. I think he's a stud. He throws the most beautiful deep ball in the game. At only 33 years old, he's got another 5-6 years left in him if they are lucky.
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Russell Wilson isn't elite anymore but he's still pretty good, far better than garbage they've had at QB the past couple seasons. It's worth the risk.
You guys are just hating because he went to Broncos.
To say he's better than any QB they've had since Manning retired is a low bar.
And the big story is they wanted Aaron Rodgers... hired their HC because of the Aaron Rodgers connection and struck out trying to get their #1 choice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
English must not be your first language.
You said he "faded down the stretch"
Then I point out the last 2 games he three 7 touchdowns and 1 pick. That's not fading down the stretch. You then try and change the argument saying it doesn't count because those teams aren't good (even though the Cardinals made the playoffs) just come out and already say it dude. Only the Chiefs can make good moves. You even bashed the Chargers when they drafted Herbert
People said this same exact shit about Matt Stafford last year. Where’s the Stafford trade thread? I bet I can find staylor saying that shit in there :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Damn..that's like 3 1st and 3 2nds for a declining QB. Seattle rapied them.
Huh?
Next year's 1st is worth a 2nd this year. Next year's 2nd is worth a 3rd this year.
So it's like a 1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd in terms of pure draft compensation. Harris could probably be traded for a 3rd rounder (maybe) as a 30 year old DL w/ a $7.5 millionish cap hit. Fant could probably get you another 2nd. Lock is maybe worth a 5th.
In terms of straight draft comp I'd say the Seahawks got a 1st, three 2nds, two 3rds and a 3rd day flyer.
I think the Seahawks needed a 3rd this year and Dre'Mont Jones in this deal. If anything the return was a little light. Yeah, Russ is down from what he was, but he's still very good and that contract is a hell of an asset in its own right given that the signing bonus is on Seattle's cap.
So Denver can either use those years to build an extension or they can convert his base this year into bonus (he won't care) and essentially have him on asswipe money against the cap this season.
The flexibility built into that contract is worth a ton on its own. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
#ThePatonPlan
Blockbuster: After weeks of negotiations, in one of the largest trades in NFL history, the Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos have agreed to terms for a deal involving Super-Bowl winning QB Russell Wilson, sources tell ESPN.
I do, because you spent weeks telling us all about it and sharing tweets of every little thing you could find involving Rodgers. It was like a school girl crush.
You won't be as good this year with Wilson as you would have been with Rodgers. That said, I think Wilson is probably the better play long term.
But man did you guys give up a high price to get him!
At least our games will be fun again . . . . . [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
People said this same exact shit about Matt Stafford last year. Where’s the Stafford trade thread? I bet I can find staylor saying that shit in there :-)
I had no problem with the Stafford trade and I have no problem with this trade.
Russell Wilson is still nowhere near Rodgers at this point.
Also, the Rams needed Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Von Miller, etc. to make that work. [Reply]
