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synthesis2 07:48 AM 10-25-2021
I know I'll get picked to pieces on this but just some thoughts on the past few years..

Year 1 for Mahomes starting: Guy is unreal, plays fancy free without a care in the world. Throws over 5000 yards and on 3rd and short he is dropping back throwing 50 plus yard passes. Sets the NFL on fire and with the WORST defense in modern football history we make it to the AFC championship game and besides Dee Ford we win the superbowl. He plays loose even with a historically bad D we do just fine because for that one year we have perhaps one of the best years EVER by any quarterback that has ever played any year. I get he may not be first but a top 5 all time year.

Year 2 you see him get a bit more conservative and not throwing it around as much as he does year 1 but still looks like 90% of year one. He did cut down on turnovers which was good but still not quite as good overall as year 1. The defense takes a step up and plays decent. Even 90% Mahomes (of year 1) with a decent defense we win the superbowl. early signs that year was he was starting to become too conservative.

Year 3 Now we are seeing him dump the ball off all the time and not taking nearly as many shots as he did year 1 ( seemed to be cut by 60% or more) We have games that year that are way to close for comfort ( falcons game as one example) and we don't cover the spread in most games ( not that it matters but means we are just squeaking things out. One of the only games that season where Mahomes looks anything like year 1 was the Buffalo game in the playoffs and he looked like he was playing fancy free like year 1. Then in the superbowl ( I get our O line vs our D line) but he started dropping his eye quickly and not being the old Patrick we know. Like the pressure was just too much for him. But you could tell that the entire year he was off compared with year 1 and year 2.

Year 4 Look I love what he has done for us as a fan base and I'll never forget it but something is way off with Mahomes. He is starting to look like Alex Smith, he isn't keeping his eyes down the field anymore, he looks jittery, he looks shaken, etc etc. He looks like a AVERAGE QB in football. I know you can make the argument that "look at his yards" or "look at his TD's" but I could also argue "look at his turnovers" but its more of a eye test.
He does not look ANYTHING like the year 1 and year 2 QB, he just looks average. Its like his field vision and decision making has completely gone. I think at best we win 9 games but 8 games is probably realistic.

*excuses* People say he is pressing because our defense is so bad but in year 1 our defense we historically awful as well. Even with a bad defense we should of won the superbowl and it was our best team ( because of how he played) Good or bad defense if Mahomes played like he did year 1 we win virtually every game.

Teams are playing us differently, worst excuse ever, look at the QB's that EVERYONE knows throws bombs so teams play them deep like they do the chiefs..... Guess what? they continue to throw the ball deep and continue to win. Examples the Raiders, they throw deep , everyone knows it and they play it that way but they still throw deep all the time and still make the throws. Tom Brady everyone knows throws deep and he continues to and it works. Its like using that as a excuse makes it ok. Just go back to how you were in his first year, throw it around and have fun. This isn't working.

Bottom line is our team isn't great but we have enough players on offense that we can be historically great again but it all hinges on Mahomes. If he gets back to playing like he did then we are fine but if he continues to play average this team is a .500 team at best. Mahomes is the great deodorant in the NFL. but thinking of madden its like Year 1 he was a 100, year 2 he was a 95, year 3 a 85 and now he is a 75. If we now have a average QB then we are cooked boys.

Something is wrong, its one or all of these but its the money, new child, wife, crazy brother or other things but he isn't remotely the same player he once was. No matter how bad our defense plays if we get fancy free Mahomes then we win if we continue to get this version of mahomes then its over...

We have lots of problems and I get we need better or new coaches, we need better players, we need better schemes but at the end of the day we need a better Mahomes.
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chiefzilla1501 08:55 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
I put the bulk of the blame on the coaches. As much as I like Reid, he needs to a more well-rounded head coach, and allow an OC to call the offensive plays. Is Bieniemy worthy of being an OC, let alone a top head coaching candidate? How would anyone know, if he isn't even calling plays? Spags has to be fired, which goes without saying. The Chiefs have now fielded 3 of the worst defenses I've ever seen under Robinson, Sutton, and Spags. Enough with the old guys, time to find a younger, more fiery coach with some balls, and the ability to adapt to his roster.
We've gotten screwed by bieniemy not getting opportunities, which he deserves. We don't want to fire him. But we need an innovator and new thinking. Someone who will push Reid for new ideas. Bieniemy is a hell of a coach but that's just not his thing.
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Rainbarrel 09:03 AM 10-25-2021
Seeing his frustration, Brittney will purposely be a royal bitch. Her milk swollen tit will fall out in the game room. He will toss her on the pool table, take revenge and ruin the cloth. Frustration melts away in the velvety vagina of his youth. Season saved!
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penguinz 09:08 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel:
Seeing his frustration, Brittney will purposely be a royal bitch. Her milk swollen tit will fall out in the game room. He will toss her on the pool table, take revenge and ruin the cloth. Frustration melts away in the velvety vagina of his youth. Season saved!
By far one of the dumbest things ever posted on this site and we have posters like BEP.
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TEX 09:09 AM 10-25-2021
The "decline" is tied into less pass protection. And no consistent running threat to keep defenses honest.
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The Franchise 09:11 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by TEX:
The "decline" is tied into less pass protection. And no consistent running threat to keep defenses honest.
And horrible play calls and game plans.
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Rainbarrel 09:12 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
By far one of the dumbest things ever posted on this site and we have posters like BEP.
The anal nesting, pocket protector in overalls stick in the mud. Can't see the bloody light at the end of the hermroid. Nothing new
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Bowser 09:16 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
And horrible play calls and game plans.
Too bad we don't have a Josh Gordon type on this roster, and too bad we can't remember how to run a slant.
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Why Not? 09:17 AM 10-25-2021
His defense sucks. His “rebuilt” O line sucks (people can be in denial of this or cite some PFF stat or some nonsense. Eye test says they suck). His tertiary receiving options suck. He has no real RB threat, with or without MEH (D Williams is a gamer and can give you effort and some results but he’s not a true RB 1 and probably not even a top shelf RB 2)

Yes, he’s played somewhat desperate and sloppy and some of his turnovers are unacceptable but, to paraphrase the song,

“We’ve got 99 problems, but a QB ain’t 1”
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The Franchise 09:17 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Too bad we don't have a Josh Gordon type on this roster, and too bad we can't remember how to run a slant.
SIX. FUCKING. SNAPS.

SIX
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Priest31kc 09:23 AM 10-25-2021
Such a weird season

Here are the best offenses at converting 1st downs into new series since 1999.

The Chiefs are No. 1 even after yesterday, and look at No. 4- this year's Cowboys! pic.twitter.com/hul8x7smph

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) October 25, 2021


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Bowser 09:24 AM 10-25-2021
Now there is a stat, lol
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mr. tegu 09:31 AM 10-25-2021
It’s almost like we could be scoring at will like previous seasons without all the turnovers.
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notorious 09:34 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
It’s almost like we could be scoring at will like previous seasons without all the turnovers.
This.
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mr. tegu 09:37 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
SIX. FUCKING. SNAPS.

SIX

That is absolutely insane. There is zero chance Robinson and Pringle are better.
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The Franchise 09:39 AM 10-25-2021
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
That is absolutely insane. There is zero chance Robinson and Pringle are better.
Robinson played the most snaps of the WRs.

I don’t even know what to say about that.
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