Originally Posted by DRM08:
That's not going to happen when you have only 32 people controlling the game. From that standpoint, it makes it perfect for the gambling/mafia people to have huge influence if they want. They only have to get their claws into 32 people. Not exactly public companies with a ton of shareholders, stock price, etc.
The rub is, those people have always had their claws in NFL owners, since the inception of the league. It's become so much worse with the TV money and ad revenue... [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Your drug addict mind can't get it through all your dead brain cells that were killed off that case never made it to the Supreme Court and they never said anything about it being entertainment.
WRONG.
The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".
This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $13 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."
There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.
Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.
The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common among professional sports leagues.
Let's talk about dead brain cells and a drug addict mind, now that we've established that you have absolutely no credibility and zero fucking clue about what you're trying to comment on... [Reply]
The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".
This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $13 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."
There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.
Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.
The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.
Blah blah tldr.
Where do I press agree to the terms of service [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
The rub is, those people have always had their claws in NFL owners, since the inception of the league. It's become so much worse with the TV money and ad revenue...
Investigative reporter said 30 years ago, about 90% of the NFL owners had deep ties to the gambling industry. That was 30 friggin' years ago. I would not think it is cleaner now than it was back then. You now have the added gambling elements of Fantasy Football in recent years, huge online gambling dollars, etc. And now a team in Las Vegas.
It would actually be way more surprising if the game was squeaky clean than if it's corrupt as hell. [Reply]
Thanks again - definitely need to know exactly which court said it's legal for the NFL to rig their own games. Important stuff there.
Politics is corrupted by the money. Big Tech and big pharma are corrupted by the money. Law enforcement is corrupted with money. Hell, we all know college athletics is corrupted with big money.
Somehow despite all that the NFL is unique in that it has impeccable integrity.
It's a thought I guess but I'd love to see some convincing reasoning behind it... [Reply]
The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".
This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $13 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."
There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.
Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.
The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common among professional sports leagues.
Let's talk about dead brain cells and a drug addict mind, now that we've established that you have absolutely no credibility and zero ****ing clue about what you're trying to comment on...
This is cut and copied from a Denver Bronco message board quack [Reply]
If what he's saying is true it sure explains why there are so many retreads. Keeping your mouth shut and being loyal pays well in all fields... [Reply]
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
The implications of this are pretty massive if true
They are unlike any issue the NFL has ever dealt with. The guy complaining about gambling on the Browns or Dolphins during this time is absolutely right to be pissed. I'm no lawyer but there has to be grounds for a lawsuit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCJake:
They are unlike any issue the NFL has ever dealt with. The guy complaining about gambling on the Browns or Dolphins during this time is absolutely right to be pissed. I'm no lawyer but there has to be grounds for a lawsuit.
There is no grounds for a lawsuit regarding gambling. [Reply]
I'm sure lots of people have copied and pasted it, since it's becoming more common knowledge that the NFL manipulates its games, but the information in there is from the FBI files made available from the freedom of information act.
So, I'm sure it's found its way to several websites - it doesn't change the veracity of the information.
You are wrong.
The NFL has a specific antitrust in regards to its sports entertainment status. The only other pro sports entity with the same antitrust is the WWE - those are irrefutable facts.
Originally Posted by Rausch:
If what he's saying is true it sure explains why there are so many retreads. Keeping your mouth shut and being loyal pays well in all fields...
