Originally Posted by RockChalk:
IU sucks. Like Mizzou, their record is a product of a very weak schedule. Outside of beating Xavier, they don't have a quality win (unless you think UNC is a good win). If we don't beat them by 15+, I'll be surprised.
If you think Indiana is bad like MU, you definitely haven't watched them play enough. Or, you just don't really understand basketball.
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Originally Posted by RockChalk:
IU sucks. Like Mizzou, their record is a product of a very weak schedule. Outside of beating Xavier, they don't have a quality win (unless you think UNC is a good win). If we don't beat them by 15+, I'll be surprised.
"Sucks" is strong. I think they're pretty good. Probably a legit top 25 team. But I do expect KU to win. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
If you think Indiana is bad like MU, you definitely haven't watched them play enough. Or, you just don't really understand basketball.
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Pretty good understanding of it. Maybe sucks is too strong of a word, but I definitely don't think they are even close in caliber to us. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RockChalk:
Pretty good understanding of it. Maybe sucks is too strong of a word, but I definitely don't think they are even close in caliber to us.
So like 8 of 10 times we beat them, unlike maybe 9 of 10 for Missouri? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RockChalk:
Pretty good understanding of it. Maybe sucks is too strong of a word, but I definitely don't think they are even close in caliber to us.
I have watched a couple of their games, and they are more athletic than we are, and it's not close.
Self coached teams, especially his teams that are not stacked with 4 & 5 Star Players, often get beat by teams that are substantially more athletic, even if that team doesn't have any stand out stars.
Oklahoma State has beaten Self several times just because they were more athletic, although they did have a star or two in a couple of those games.
We have lost to unranked teams in the preseason who were just more athletic.
We got run in the tournament a couple of times by teams that were more athletic.
But in almost all of those games, we had the better players, and almost certainly a better head coach and coaching staff.
So, just thinking that a team isn't the same caliber is just naive at best, and arrogantly ignorant at worst.
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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
I have watched a couple of their games, and they are more athletic than we are, and it's not close.
Self coached teams, especially his teams that are not stacked with 4 & 5 Star Players, often get beat by teams that are substantially more athletic, even if that team doesn't have any stand out stars.
Oklahoma State has beaten Self several times just because they were more athletic, although they did have a star or two in a couple of those games.
We have lost to unranked teams in the preseason who were just more athletic.
We got run in the tournament a couple of times by teams that were more athletic.
But in almost all of those games, we had the better players, and almost certainly a better head coach and coaching staff.
So, just thinking that a team isn't the same caliber is just naive at best, and arrogantly ignorant at worst.