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cmh6476 01:38 PM 01-13-2019
too soon?
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Pats59-1 09:39 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
And Pats fans wonder why we don't care to engage them in serious conversation... lol
Here are the last 2 games with Kelce vs NE:

January 2016

6 catches, 23 yards

Sept 2017, 5 for 40 yards

October 2018

5 catches, 61 yards

All of this with no blocking up front by Kelce to help the run game.

Kelce has been removed in 3 games by Chung/McCourty.

These are facts. He's soft.
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bobbything 09:39 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
Good teams deal with crowd noise. Unprepared teams don't.

Travel is not a HFA. Its travel.

Field conditions, weather are not HFA. They are actual game conditions which certainly can impact the outcome of a game.
Wow. I mean...wow.
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Pats59-1 09:40 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
He's on pace to blow past Gronk in all of the key statistical categories for a TE.

So does that mean Gronk is not going to the HOF either?
Won't happen. Soft. Gronk's numbers demolish even the great Tony Gonzalez, in fewer games played.
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bostonhardo 09:41 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
He's on pace to blow past Gronk in all of the key statistical categories for a TE.

So does that mean Gronk is not going to the HOF either?
Exactly what key stats?
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Pats59-1 09:42 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
So the Patriots going 0-2 on the road in December... i.e. their most recent road games... i.e. losses to two non playoff teams has no bearing on the current team?
Did you watch the game past Sunday? Running the ball down SDs throat and hitting RBs into the flat against a zone D like yours, that's actually BETTER than yours, has nothing to do with where the game is played.

If Brady gets playaction, your team is in serious trouble.

You should be very concerned about this.
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bostonhardo 09:42 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
So the Patriots going 0-2 on the road in December... i.e. their most recent road games... i.e. losses to two non playoff teams has no bearing on the current team?
Thats not what I said. You asked about the Jax game. You need to focus.

They lost those two games because they got outplayed in both. Close games one play either way.
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FringeNC 09:42 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Pats59-1:
Pats are 59-1 in the BB/Brady Era with a 100 yard rusher.

Discuss:
They run the ball when the game is already decided?
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Pats59-1 09:43 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by bobbything:
Wow. I mean...wow.

Are you aware your defense is worse than SDs and you plat a lot of zone?
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Chief_N_Bama 09:43 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
Good teams deal with crowd noise. Unprepared teams don't.

Travel is not a HFA. Its travel.

Field conditions, weather are not HFA. They are actual game conditions which certainly can impact the outcome of a game.
Brady has shown a decline in performance on the road compared to either at home or at a neutral site, though that’s not unexpected. His completion rate is solid (57 percent) but his 8-to-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio is mediocre and his overall passer rating on the road (75.9) is nowhere close to what we would expect from a five-time Super Bowl champion quarterback who has produced passer ratings of 93.1 at home and 98.0 on neutral fields.


HFA doesn't matter though...
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Chief_N_Bama 09:45 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Pats59-1:
Are you aware your defense is worse than SDs and you plat a lot of zone?
Another ignorant Pat's fan...

Chiefs are a zone team huh?
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Pats59-1 09:45 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by FringeNC:
They run the ball when the game is already decided?
I don't think a lot of games were decided from 2001-2004 when using Antowain Smith or Corey Dillon as a lead back.

This ain't your post Lockout (2011-2017) Patriots, folks.

2 Back Sets with 3 versatile backs who can ALSO catch the bell very well, means 3 fresh backs with a Pro Bowl FB and 2 beastly blockers at TE.

Think the 1984 SF 49ers.
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bostonhardo 09:45 AM 01-17-2019
Still waiting for the key Gronk- Kelce stats
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staylor26 09:46 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Pats59-1:
Are you aware your defense is worse than SDs and you plat a lot of zone?
:-)
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Chief_N_Bama 09:46 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by FringeNC:
They run the ball when the game is already decided?
Exactly...

To be fans of such a successful franchise these guys are shocking ignorant of the game...
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htismaqe 09:47 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Pats59-1:
It's not relevant that if Brady has a good run game, to get to playaction, as the best playaction QB in NFL history, that it's not relevant to a zone D by Bob Sutton and one that could become overwhelmed by a balanced offense?

I beg to differ.
Take that up with your fellow Patriot fans. I didn’t make the rules, they did.
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