Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I absolutely loathe this guy. Always dinged up, ground ball machine, mediocre defender, I have so little interest in having this guy around for 4 years that it defies meaningful articulation.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I absolutely loathe this guy. Always dinged up, ground ball machine, mediocre defender, I have so little interest in having this guy around for 4 years that it defies meaningful articulation.
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
I doubt it. Cubs ownership is just as good as St Louis at crying about having no money to spend.
I have more worry over Jed Hoyer being the man for a large market job than I do the Ricketts willingness to spend. The whole season leading up to this offseason was talks about spending. Ricketts has apparently given Hoyer approval to spend whatever is needed. Even Boras has publicly said that the "Tom Tom drum is finally beating again" in regards to Tom Ricketts.
However, the only person that decides if the money gets spent is Jed Hoyer. He apparently didn't spend his entire budget last year as Crane Kenney came out and bragged about how much money they didnt spend that would roll over to this year. And we just went through a year long campaign of "intelligent spending" and how he isn't necessarily excited about giving out the length of contract its going to take to sign a Correa or maybe even Bogaerts, as we listen to more and more about Dansby fucking Swanson. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
I absolutely loathe this guy. Always dinged up, ground ball machine, mediocre defender, I have so little interest in having this guy around for 4 years that it defies meaningful articulation.
Ugh. Just so gross.
While I do agree he has been overrated, I wonder how much the new pickoff rule factors into the Cardinals pursuing him.
His defense been knocked more for his framing. But he always graded well from a scouting perspective on liking the catcher that can throw quickly to second. That skill will be needed more in 2023, carried less weight in recent years. [Reply]
I just went and looked up the Fielding Bible Awards and 24 different catchers received a vote for being one of the top 1-10 defensive catchers during the 2023 season and Willson Contreras did not get one vote. That's telling. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
I just went and looked up the Fielding Bible Awards and 24 different catchers received a vote for being one of the top 1-10 defensive catchers during the 2023 season and Willson Contreras did not get one vote. That's telling.
He's a good player but his value is heavily reliant on his bat and the fact that he can catch, but he isn't a catcher. He does not get good marks for his work behind the plate or his work with pitchers. I really dont see how that fits the Cardinals philosophy on catching but hey...
Catcher Willson Contreras and the St. Louis Cardinals are in agreement on a five-year, $87.5 million contract, a source familiar with the deal tells ESPN.
Originally Posted by Ocotillo:
I just went and looked up the Fielding Bible Awards and 24 different catchers received a vote for being one of the top 1-10 defensive catchers during the 2023 season and Willson Contreras did not get one vote. That's telling.
Because he's not a good defender.
This is absolutely Fowler 2.0. And somehow even less defensible.