Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
BTW, the didn't "woke up" the show having the female pilot being the best.
Spoiler!
I really did like the fact that Hangman clearly WAS the best pilot. Too many movies these days would've taken the arrogant young pilot and made him shit the bed or be some overrated strutting rooster.
Hangman was the top dog. Something of a Michael Jordan to Rooster's eventual Magic Johnson. The scene with Maverick in the dogfight where he loses him in the sun is just the cagey vet getting one over on him, but in terms of pure skills it sure seemed like he had an edge on our boy
Saw this today and I loved it! Thought it was exactly what I expected going into it. They did an awesome job with the film and love the "parallels" to the original. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
If you eject at mach10+ you're not living to tell about it afterwards lol. That's almost 8,000 mph.
F15 pilot talks about ejecting at 800mph and how it crush his orbital bones, fractures vertebrate, broken limbs, getting knocked out only to wake up hanging in a parachute. Was lucky to get out of that alive.
Imagine going 10x that fast. It'd rip your body apart.
And does Maverick own a car?
Now I thought the very same thing - he gone! But, it is a "movie". Yes, he would have been destroyed. Ejecting from that mach 10+ airplane - I get it. I actually was expecting a 6 weeks earlier.. at that point. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
If you eject at mach10+ you're not living to tell about it afterwards lol. That's almost 8,000 mph.
F15 pilot talks about ejecting at 800mph and how it crush his orbital bones, fractures vertebrate, broken limbs, getting knocked out only to wake up hanging in a parachute. Was lucky to get out of that alive.
Imagine going 10x that fast. It'd rip your body apart.
And does Maverick own a car?
I’d imagine a hypersonic jet wouldn’t have an ejection seat but rather a ‘pod’ designed for surviveability. Something similar to the space shuttle. The belief is that the challenger astronauts, at least some of them, survived the breakup because their pod absorbed the forces involved. Unfortunately the chutes didn’t work. [Reply]
A+ for action that’s for damn sure. The classic American summer blockbuster is back - we’ve been missing them. A lot actually.
Cruise proves star power still matters in HollyWeird. Honestly if he didn’t make it back to this film, if they tried a new actor for this role, or did a re-make, or a new story, it’d have flopped. I’d have never seen it personally. He can carry a film on his back like Atlas.
The plot was pretty thin. Of course I reminded myself I wasn’t there for a damn plot anyway! My boys were enthralled by it.
Didn’t know it was Jen Connolly until the credits. Good gracious that is one glorious female.
Finally, I REALLY appreciated no steamy, forced love scene. Just two people rekindling something we don’t really know much about. With kids in tow, I didn’t need another Berlin to sing a sex-song. [Reply]
I did enjoy it, but like most movies that get hyped all to hell beforehand, not nearly as much as I had hoped I would.
I guess I'll still spoiler my thoughts.
Spoiler!
The story was as predictable as Avatar. Utterly and completely predictable. I kept hoping they'd throw a wrench in somewhere. At least maybe kill off one or more of the young hotshots. They didn't. The whole Maverick ending his career as an ace was telegraphed in the first trailer. When they mentioned the "enemy" having old Tomcats, I thought, "no, are they really going to shoehorn a Tomcat in there?" Sure enough.... just like the Avatar giant red bird thing. And did anybody not think Maverick and Rooster wouldn't hug shit out, or that the cocky asshole would save them at the end? Ugh.
And they also straight up stole the whole base attack bit from the death star attack in Star Wars. The only things missing were talk of bullseyeing womprats back home and a ghost Goose telling Maverick to use the force. Lucas should have gotten a writing credit. Iceman dying of cancer was pretty much Greer dying of cancer in Clear and Present Danger. Clancy should have gotten a writing credit as well.
And in what reality do PEOPLE WHO WEAR GLASSES fly in fighters? I mean, I've been out for a long time, but back then you wouldn't even sniff military flight training without natural 20/20 vision, even if you were destined to fly a cargo route to Adak. Can't imagine that's changed.
And this unnamed enemy shit is both lame and offensive. Was it Russia? China? North Korea? Sweden? Canada? Rebel Eskimos? Who knows? Not ever seeing the enemies faces reduced them to video game bad guys. God forbid we offend anybody who might drop money on a movie ticket. :-)
It was fun, though. I liked it. The flying sequences were amazing and in the end that saved it. But much like Avatar, it could and should have been so much more, though. Went in expecting five stars. This was three and a half. At best.
One thing I won't spoiler - we stayed until the end of the credits because one of my wife's FB friends to her there was a post credits scene. There wasn't. [Reply]
Saw it today. They had every cliche imaginable making an appearance in this movie. Every person in this film was predictable as were their actions. Yet, it was still entertaining.
Using real DOD F-18’s and the access that the DOD allowed made this movie unlike any before it. You didn’t need CGI to show the action or speed of the jets. Best dog fights ever filmed. [Reply]
I loved it. Wasn’t a huge fan of the original growing up, just wasn’t a movie that I watched over and over again, but found this movie to hit all the right notes. Tom Cruise maybe a strange individual, but he’s made some of my most favorite films and knows what resonates with the audience. Wonderful film, paid homage all throughout the run time, and I’m glad that this movie was as good as it was given the amount of time it took to come out. Not sure I’d be as interested in the young cast if they ever made another without Cruise, but this is like Terminator 2 to me, just an amazing time at the movies for a sequel. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Saw it today. They had every cliche imaginable making an appearance in this movie. Every person in this film was predictable as were their actions. Yet, it was still entertaining.
Using real DOD F-18’s and the access that the DOD allowed made this movie unlike any before it. You didn’t need CGI to show the action or speed of the jets. Best dog fights ever filmed.
They only charged 10k an hour to use an F-18. Granted, the actors rode bitch in the back but still.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Saw it today. They had every cliche imaginable making an appearance in this movie. Every person in this film was predictable as were their actions. Yet, it was still entertaining.
Using real DOD F-18’s and the access that the DOD allowed made this movie unlike any before it. You didn’t need CGI to show the action or speed of the jets. Best dog fights ever filmed.
Yup.
You and Frazod are absolutely correct - there was nothing from a story perspective that made that movie unique. And frankly, I want to go see it removed from the 'burden' of watching the story just so I can appreciate the cinematography.
Because that's what truly made the movie.
To me it was a lot like Dunkirk. Dunkirk is a fairly dull, lifeless movie on television. But on a large screen it was incredible. Maverick is the same animal. [Reply]