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cmh6476 01:38 PM 01-13-2019
too soon?
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RobertWeathers 08:17 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
“On this board” being the key phrase. Because on the Patsies forum, you’re calling KC fans trailer trash. ****ing tool.
I've done nothing of the sort. I'm using the same screen name here as I have on patsfans.
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RobertWeathers 08:19 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
Nah... I was just pointed out that (once again) a NE fan doesn't understand the conversation.
What is the conversation then? We can then be on the same page.
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Chief_N_Bama 08:20 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
What is the conversation then? We can then be on the same page.
That NE seems to get all their hard games at home... so KC getting it's share of cupcakes at home kinda proves the point...
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TambaBerry 08:22 AM 01-17-2019
how can Patriots fans be this dense. Just admit it man, seriously we had two easy wins this year because we had the Raiders in our division. You had the Jets and the Bills who are garbage this year thats 4 wins gifted to you. Miami should have been another 2 but you suck on the road.
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RobertWeathers 08:27 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
That NE seems to get all their hard games at home... so KC getting it's share of cupcakes at home kinda proves the point...
..which is why I've stated in earlier posts it means jack shit.

We waxed the Chargers at home

You guys blew vs the Chargers at home.

Different teams. Different matchups. Different circumstances. Injured players. Schemes, etc. Its meaningless.

Which is why its best to look at each game at its own season than say, The Pats suck one the road" or "the Chiefs defense sucks". Its dumb. There is no analysis just a general perception.
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Chief_N_Bama 08:34 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
..which is why I've stated in earlier posts it means jack shit.

We waxed the Chargers at home

You guys blew vs the Chargers at home.

Different teams. Different matchups. Different circumstances. Injured players. Schemes, etc. Its relevance.

Which is why its best to look at each game at its own season than say, The Pats suck one the road" or "the Chiefs defense sucks". Its dumb
So, NE playing 3 of their 4 most difficult games at home versus KC playing 4 of their 6 toughest games on the road means jack shit?

Go ahead and tell me HFA doesn't matter...
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Chief_N_Bama 08:43 AM 01-17-2019
Who is the best QB Brady has faced in his own division?
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RobertWeathers 08:45 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
So, NE playing 3 of their 4 most difficult games at home versus KC playing 4 of their 6 toughest games on the road means jack shit?

Go ahead and tell me HFA doesn't matter...
HFA doesn't hurt but you win when you play well. You lose when you don't.

Look at your playoff wins/losses at home/away over the last few years and tell me how much HFA helped. TN? Nope. Pitt? Nope. You beat @HOU b/c you were the better team. We beat KC in 2015 b/c we played better. You were killing @Indy in 2014 and you stopped playing. BAL in 2010? Nope.

We had HFA vs BAL in 2012 and got our brains beat in. Why? No Gronk and Talib, we didn't convert on 3rd down and we turned the ball over. We lost to a better team.

See my point?
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TambaBerry 08:46 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
Who is the best QB Brady has faced in his own division?
Chad Pennington
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Chief_N_Bama 08:50 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
HFA doesn't hurt but you win when you play well. You lose when you don't.

Look at your playoff wins/losses at home/away over the last few years and tell me how much HFA helped. TN? Nope. Pitt? Nope. You beat @HOU b/c you were the better team. You were killing @Indy and you stopped playing. BAL in 2010? Nope.

We had HFA vs BAL in 2012 and got our brains beat in. Why? No Gronk and Talib, we didn't convert on 3rd down and we turned the ball over. We lost to a better team.

See my point?
You don't understand how stats work do you? Just because KC has lost at home in the past doesn't mean that HFA doesn't exist. The data doesn't lie.

Since 2003 all but 7 teams are at least .500 at home. During the same period only 8 teams were .500 or better on the road.
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Frazod 08:50 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
I don't think I said they lollygagged vs the Steelers.

They most certainly mailed it in vs MIA.

The 2018 Pats have had a tough time getting up for games on the road. That what happens to teams that have been kicking ass for 18 years.

Don't call me a tool. I've been respectful on this board. I expect the same courtesy.
When I decide to lead a troll invasion to your fucking board, then I'll worry about offending your delicate parts. Until then, however, you can go fist yourself.
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staylor26 08:52 AM 01-17-2019
JFC Pats fans are fucking retarded
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Chief_N_Bama 08:55 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
Chad Pennington
So, in an era where QB play is the biggest driver of team success, Brady has never had to face another franchise QB in his own division?

Nah... that ain't an advantage...
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RobertWeathers 08:55 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
You don't understand how stats work do you? Just because KC has lost at home in the past doesn't mean that HFA doesn't exist. The data doesn't lie.

Since 2003 all but 7 teams are at least .500 at home. During the same period only 8 teams were .500 or better on the road.
I understand how stats work perfectly. Reality is better.

You lost at home in the playoffs. We lost at home in the playoffs. Looking at trends and statistics is all well and good only with context.

We disagree on this point.
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Frazod 08:56 AM 01-17-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
JFC Pats fans are fucking retarded
18 years here, I've never seen anything like it. :-)
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