Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Ever hear of 'Nichols law of Catcher Defense'? It's a presumption that any catcher who can't hit must actually be a good defensive player. It's stupid; a lot of catchers can't do shit either way.
The football equivalent would be "DJ's Law of Limp Wristed Passers". If a quarterback has a noodle arm, he must be a really smart, polished passer. And think about how universally applicable it is? Can you think of a QB with an average arm who doesn't get that 'smart player' label stuck on him? Some of them have average arms and are ALSO stupid and raw.
These national asswipes keep sucking off Watson and calling Mahomes a reckless gunslinger despite Watson have FAR worse turnover issues in college than Mahomes had. Why? Because Watson has a bitch arm. So they just presume he must be smart with the football because obviously he doesn't have the rocket to be risky.
They're just wrong. There's not a single thing Watson does better than Mahomes on a football field apart from run in a straight line. It's just irritating and that's why I will continue to root against the guy.
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
What they don't tell you is that Henne already explained WHY Mahomes usually targets his first read.
It's because he's doing such a damn good job on his pre-snap and making the correct hot-read.
The guy goes Obi-Wan on the safety w/ the throw to Harris and national idiots will use that play to prove that Mahomes is just making simple reads.
Harris was almost certainly the first read there, yeah. And if Mahomes doesn't manipulate the hell out of the safety, that read probably isn't there. He MAKES his first read open as often as not. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I’ll tell you what, a lot of these national media guys that were sucking Watson’s dick are still skeptical of Mahomes
Yeah, I think it's not a coincidence the people still the most skeptical of Mahomes are all guys who said KC made a mistake taking Mahomes after the draft, and all guys who GUSHED over Watson's performance last season.
A bunch of salty Watson backers doubling down on their wrongness. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Yeah, I think it's not a coincidence the people still the most skeptical of Mahomes are all guys who said KC made a mistake taking Mahomes after the draft, and all guys who GUSHED over Watson's performance last season.
A bunch of salty Watson backers doubling down on their wrongness.
Yup. These are people that can’t seperate CFB from the NFL too.
They saw Watson beat Bama and they made up their minds that he was the best QB in the country, therefor he was the best QB prospect. They dismissed Pat because of the system he played in and his lack of “big wins”. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Yeah, I think it's not a coincidence the people still the most skeptical of Mahomes are all guys who said KC made a mistake taking Mahomes after the draft, and all guys who GUSHED over Watson's performance last season.
A bunch of salty Watson backers doubling down on their wrongness.
They are backing off Mahomes bc Watson is one of a long line of small sample size corrections.
RGIII, Foles, Watson, Dak. All these guys looked amazing early on and then came back down to Earth abruptly. Even Alex Smith early in this offense last year.
I don’t think it’s Mahomes hate necessarily, just a trend. They will get on board when Mahomes is still balling in December. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Yup. These are people that can’t seperate CFB from the NFL too.
They saw Watson beat Bama and they made up their minds that he was the best QB in the country, therefor he was the best QB prospect. They dismissed Pat because of the system he played in and his lack of “big wins”.
Even more annoying is that most of those SAME guys insisted Watson was ALSO in the best situation because he was going to the team with the 'best coach and best talent'
I don't know in WHAT world the Texans were better than KC in 2016 going into 2017. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The guy goes Obi-Wan on the safety w/ the throw to Harris and national idiots will use that play to prove that Mahomes is just making simple reads.
Harris was almost certainly the first read there, yeah. And if Mahomes doesn't manipulate the hell out of the safety, that read probably isn't there. He MAKES his first read open as often as not.
We know from experience that QBs miss open receivers all the time. It’s ridiculous to knock Mahomes because receivers are open given he is either throwing them open, manipulating the defense like you said, or good coaching schemes them open. Reid is part of the team so him getting guys open and coaching Mahomes to find them is an uniformed knock on him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They are backing off Mahomes bc Watson is one of a long line of small sample size corrections.
RGIII, Foles, Watson, Dak. All these guys looked amazing early on and then came back down to Earth abruptly. Even Alex Smith early in this offense last year.
I don’t think it’s Mahomes hate necessarily, just a trend. They will get on board when Mahomes is still balling in December.
It’s just so lazy and I think many just don’t want to plant a flag. It’s so obvious that what he is doing is different given the way it looks. It passes the eye test. Watson threw another jump ball INT in the end zone yesterday just like he did all of last season but no one seemed to want to acknowledge those last season or that they weren’t winning when he was putting up those yards and TDs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
We know from experience that QBs miss open receivers all the time. It’s ridiculous to knock Mahomes because receivers are open given he is either throwing them open, manipulating the defense like you said, or good coaching schemes them open. Reid is part of the team so him getting guys open and coaching Mahomes to find them is an uniformed knock on him.
He had a completely unremarkable, maybe 7 yard gain at some point in the 3rd quarter. I wish I'd have paid more attention to it but at the time it really seemed to mean nothing.
Guy looked off a safety and it just looked like habit. It was just what he does. That's what was so funny about it - guy was moving around the secondary like I'd tie my shoes. It wasn't this remarkable downfield strike for a TD, it was just a basic, hit my first read for a short gain on first down sort of slant that meant nothing.
And he was STILL looking guys off. He's just ridiculously good. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He had a completely unremarkable, maybe 7 yard gain at some point in the 3rd quarter. I wish I'd have paid more attention to it but at the time it really seemed to mean nothing.
Guy looked off a safety and it just looked like habit. It was just what he does. That's what was so funny about it - guy was moving around the secondary like I'd tie my shoes. It wasn't this remarkable downfield strike for a TD, it was just a basic, hit my first read for a short gain on first down sort of slant that meant nothing.
And he was STILL looking guys off. He's just ridiculously good.
He is much smarter than the fake news media narrative calling him a big dumb arm and nothing else. The Favre/Cutler/George/Kaep comparisons and so forth. It’s working to his advantage so far. Steelers admitted they were shocked at how smart he is.
He is smarter with the ball than Deshaun Watson and this was true in college for them as well, yet somehow Mahomes is viewed as the dumb guy chunking into double coverage every play. Reality suggests Watson is more of that risk-taker and does not have the talent to keep getting away with so many risky throws.
It’s just gonna take more time for these false narratives to die. I will laugh hard if he has zero turnovers against the Jags/Rams. That one will probably shock the pundits. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
i swear to gawd, this kid has 240 degree vision, maybe even 360 :-)
I remember reading some stuff once about how important peripheral vision is to pro athletes. The article focused on some old-time baskeball player (John Havlicek?) who supposedly had more than 180 degree vision, and it made him great because he could see what was happening more than others. I kind of suspect that it's a big factor with running backs, and I could see it with quarterbacks as well. [Reply]
Whats even more scary, as good as he was yesterday, he left some plays out there. He had Demarcus for a walk in TD that he overthrew by a step. Same on the Tyreek play.
