2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official
2023 Opening Day Lineup
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Donovan 2B
Nootbar RF
Goldschmidt 1B
Arenado 3B
Wilson Contreras C
Tyler O'Neill LF
Gorman DH
Jordan Walker RF
Tommy Edman SS
2022 Opening Day roster.
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The Cardinals anticipated 26-player Opening Day roster projects as follows, but will not become official until Thursday, March 30:
PITCHERS (13): Jack Flaherty-RHP, Giovanny Gallegos-RHP, Ryan Helsley-RHP, Jordan Hicks-RHP, Steven Matz-LHP, Miles Mikolas-RHP, Jordan Montgomery-LHP, Packy Naughton-LHP, Andre Pallante-RHP, Chris Stratton-RHP, Zack Thompson-LHP, Drew VerHagen-RHP, and Jake Woodford-RHP;
CATCHERS (2): Willson Contreras and Andrew Knizner;
INFIELDERS (6): Nolan Arenado, Brendan Donovan, Tommy Edman, Paul Goldschmidt, Nolan Gorman and Taylor Motter;
OUTFIELDERS (5): Alec Burleson, Dylan Carlson, Lars Nootbaar, Tyler O’Neill and Jordan Walker;
INJURED LIST (3): Paul DeJong-INF, Wilking Rodríguez-RHP, Adam Wainwright-RHP.
For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
The good thing about seeing the Cards in St. Pete, $60 seats like these that only get you upper deck in St. Louis. Bad side, they are still the 2023 Cardinals.
How cool is it that 2 players who have been playing together since 5 years old are on the same team. Wonder if that has happened before? Has to have occurred, right?
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Liberatore is going to be an organizational failure.
I've seen him throwing 97 mph heat that moves with plus plus depth on his curveball.
But he comes up here, gets jerked around, loses his confidence and suddenly he's guiding everything. He's throwing 93 with a roller and hoping to live in precision.
He can be a 3rd starter and I've SEEN it. I've seen the stuff. We've wrecked it.
I was in Chicago for Zach Thompson's breakout game. 97-98 with a HAMMER curve. He looked fantastic. But hey, a year later we're still jerking him around, velocity is down, he's lost the feel for the curve and he doesn't know how to approach an AB all the sudden.
Both of those guys have the talent to be mid-rotation starters and we are absolutely ruining them.
By the way - when the fucknuggets in the booth and Marmol spoke after his last start where he gave up 5 and said 'he looked good and made 2 bad pitches' despite throwing 93-94 -- THIS game is how you know they're full of shit.
What did I say he could do? 97 with run. What's he doing tonight? 97 with run. THIS is Liberatore looking good. 93-94 with a roller is not, no matter what that lesbian golf pro Brad Thompson wants to tell you.
He HAS this. He's always had this. I've seen him do it when he's throwing with conviction. But this team has fucked around and blown 2 years of development with him by having him looking over his shoulder and not knowing his role. So he's guiding instead of throwing. And I've mentioned it on this board several times. I can SEE him not finishing his pitches. I can see him coming off early. I see this - how do they not?
Tonight he's throwing. He's not aiming. His curve has depth, his heat has life and velocity. This is who he is capable of being and this damn organization has got to stop getting in his way and let him succeed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Miles:
At least based on the box score it looked like Libby had a rather nice start tonight. Good to hear he also looked the part.
I sat right behind home plate for the start. That fastball had movement. The curve was amazing to see from that angle. I don’t know if TV showed it or not but he got a standing ovation as he left after the inning. Card fans outnumbered Rays fans 10-1 at least. [Reply]
It’s a lost season but this is embarrassing. I love Waino. I and my son got to watch him throw the pitch that won a WS live after a couple of decades. Memory I’ll never forget. But, come on man , forget 200 wins.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
It’s a lost season but this is embarrassing. I love Waino. I and my son got to watch him throw the pitch that won a WS live after a couple of decades. Memory I’ll never forget. But, come on man , forget 200 wins.
I watched this game - the Athletics are shockingly terrible. The pickoff play at 2b that led to the Cardinals 1st run is as bad as you'll ever see from a major league club. [Reply]
The Pirates, Brewers, Cubs and Reds are ranked 2-5 as having the best farm systems in all of baseball. Mo continues to take us to the bottom of incomitance.
22. St. Louis Cardinals
2023 preseason rank: 9
2022 midseason rank: 13
2022 preseason rank: 16
2021 midseason rank: 21
Top 100 prospects: Masyn Winn, SS (No. 32); Tink Hence, RHP (No. 45)
Jordan Walker and Alec Burleson graduated off the preseason Top 100, Gordon Graceffo fell off with more mundane results at Triple-A Memphis and while Winn and Hence have maintained their places as promising pieces of St. Louis’ future, the Cardinals haven’t quite replaced what they lost in terms of top-end talent. First-rounder Chase Davis could reach those heights as he brings his CarGo-style swing to the pros, and St. Louis certainly addressed depth with the additions of Tekoah Roby, Sem Robberse, Thomas Saggese and others at the Deadline.