Sources: The #Seahawks and #Chiefs are deep in talks on a trade to send star Frank Clark to KC. The compensation would include a 1st rounder, a 2020 2nd rounder and a swap of mid-rounders. To complete it, the franchise tagged player and Chiefs must hammer out a deal.
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
So it's a 'bad' thing he had an elite season while playing with bum elbows?
I don't have access to the medical records but clearly Seattle thought so. People are already spinning it and saying "boy, think about how well he's going to play when he's healthy. he's going to be the GOAT!" I certainly hope that's the case but that's super optimistic, there's just has many guys who have injuries that continue to nag them throughout their careers. [Reply]
Ive sen some shit arguments before but a guy with the exact same number as Mack to start their careers, playing as a DE no less, who has missed 2 games in his life and put up good numbers when "hurt", has health issues? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
We gave up way too much.
Raush if you look at where we improved in the 3rd this year and the 2nd next year, we basically gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Clark. Is that too much?
In a nutshell we gave up a 2nd and a 3rd and turned a low 3rd into a middle 3rd rounder and a likley very late second into a middle second rounder. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Ive sen some shit arguments before but a guy with the exact same number as Mack to start their careers, playing as a DE no less, who has missed 2 games in his life and put up good numbers when "hurt", has health issues?
Hell by his standards, the Chiefs would be sitting around huffing bags all day long instead of drafting football players since they all get hurt at some point. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sannyasi:
I don't have access to the medical records but clearly Seattle thought so. People are already spinning it and saying "boy, think about how well he's going to play when he's healthy. he's going to be the GOAT!" I certainly hope that's the case but that's super optimistic, there's just has many guys who have injuries that continue to nag them throughout their careers.
The guy fucking threw Eric Fisher backwards with two fucked up elbows my god [Reply]
The Chiefs would have almost certainly traded away a 2nd round pick to move up on Thursday had this deal not taken place. So that pick was a goner regardless probably.
They swap 3rd rounders and actually go up a bit.
So in a sense, the Chiefs traded up with a 2nd round pick, swapped 3rds, and took Frank Clark (because I think they would have done that Thursday for another player).
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Ive sen some shit arguments before but a guy with the exact same number as Mack to start their careers, playing as a DE no less, who has missed 2 games in his life and put up good numbers when "hurt", has health issues?
The tendency for human beings to just double down on a losing argument even when confronted with all evidence showing them to be wrong is always astounding.
You know, I'm always more impressed with someone who admits they were wrong than someone who just keeps doubling down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Ive sen some shit arguments before but a guy with the exact same number as Mack to start their careers, playing as a DE no less, who has missed 2 games in his life and put up good numbers when "hurt", has health issues?
I don’t have any problem with his play. I don’t like adding another possible problem child off the field. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Raush if you look at where we improved in the 3rd this year and the 2nd next year, we basically gave up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Clark. Is that too much?
Question:
When does "next year" become "this draft" and we actually go in with a full deck and do something resembling competent work? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sannyasi:
I don't have access to the medical records but clearly Seattle thought so. People are already spinning it and saying "boy, think about how well he's going to play when he's healthy. he's going to be the GOAT!" I certainly hope that's the case but that's super optimistic, there's just has many guys who have injuries that continue to nag them throughout their careers.
Seattle didn't feel like they could pay him because of the Russell Wilson contract and needed picks. Have no idea why you feel the need to push the narrative to anything else. [Reply]