Tyreek Hill has spent 2 months taking thinly veiled shots at the organization.

Meanwhile he was a model teammate for 6 seasons here.

I'd hold off a bit on deciding who is/isn't a culture fit. Gimme the great talent and I'll see what we can do about that culture bridge when we get to it.

Something tells me he wouldn't be throwing PM under the bus. When the rubber the road, 99% of all WRs are divas. Some coaches/organizations manage to just keep it contained.
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Honestly, I give zero ****'s about the tantrum or that he said out loud what that entire lockeroom has to be thinking about Trubisky at this point. None that detracts from the fact that the catch was absolute fire.

Immaturity was a widely known knock on him. Nobody is surprised. Whoever drafted him knew exactly what they were getting. Fittingly enough, he was selected into the same environment that cultivated Antonio Brown.

No doubt the Steelers had the maximum strength excedrin on standby when they picked him.
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Every time George Pickens makes one of these damn catches i get a little salty.

Fucking DK Metcalfe catastrophe all over again.
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He'll probably be very good, but he had 39 yards and I think 36 came from that 1 reception. I dunno, I liked him more than Moore but not loads and to be honest he's not exactly lighting it up.
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As the 3rd receiver on a running team with Mitch Trubisky at Qb.

Fuck the production dude, who cares. Look at the skillset and ability.

And yeah i understand he has an attitude problem, but shit, that's partly why i loved the guy.
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Let's hope not. We have quite a ways to go before that becomes official. However, Pickens is inarguably winning these early rounds.
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Lol can't wait for Skyy to have you two eating crow.

Just a matter of time.
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Nor can I.

We need someone that can beat man coverage but it damn sure ain't JJSS and it doesn't appear to be MVS.

The sooner Moore can earn some playing time the better, because when Justin Watson is the only guy that's looked remotely feisty in this 'new' alignment, you're in some trouble.
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Even if Skyy Moore has success (which i fully expect him to) it won't matter much in this debate because it's about skill set.

They're completely different kinds of guys.

Reid and Mahomes will make Skyy produce. They woulda made Pickens produce too.

Give me Pickens skillset all day long though.
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What skill set has he shown thus far?

Again, I love Pickens, but I just haven't been overly impressed outside of that one catch. I posted a video of him failing to get much separation throughout the course of a game. He hasn't looked overly fast or quick out there. So far, he looks like a big contested catch guy, and that just isn't a great fit in this offense and in particular with Mahomes.

Now of course it's still very early. He, like Skyy, has a lot of room to grow. I'm not denying the upside he showed in college.

But I think you're severely underestimating Skyy's skill set.

Dude can literally do it all. I know many want to pretend he can't win with deeper routes, but he's shown that he can in the limited opportunities that he's had going back to the preseason. He's not going to get a ton of separation on those, but he gets enough, and that's really all he needs. We already know he can win on the short to intermediate stuff. He's also displayed some of that YAC ability that he showed in college. He's got huge hands and long arms.

Just wait, let things play out. I have no doubt you will be eating crow.
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His body control is already at the top the league as demonstrated last night. He's shown to be a good route runner. Excellent hands. Not just a willing run blocker, but a violent one.

He's not the fastest guy, but he's still a 4.4 forty kind of player.

Between training camp and now the dude has made a number of ELITE level catches.

C'mon man, look at this shit.

Dude blocks TWO defenders to spring an outside run. Blows up a DB on another run play away from his side.

Catches a deep fade over the shoulder and toe taps in the corner of the endzone.

Look at the body control on that leaping grab for a first down.



And dude has certainly gotten open:


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I think I was pretty early on the Moore hype train, but I also thought Pickens was the more complete WR. Honestly, not sure. Obviously it's early but Pickens always seemed to win late in the route and I don't know if he does that as easily or frequently at this level. If he keeps bullying people at the catch point he's an All-Pro. If not, Moore is going to be a more effective player imo. He gets early separation much more frequently from what I can see, and as you say is YAC is excellent.
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I think Pickens is a guy who got punished for the reputation of Georgia WRs of late.

Folks were putting the 'raw route runner' tag on him without watching him actually run routes. That kid is absolutely a good route runner. An excellent one as far as prospects go.

Off the field, it's hard to say. Worse guys have done a fine job keeping their noses clean in the right organizations.

But on the field, there's very little not to like about him as a prospect. He it's hard to find a guy with downfield speed and his kind of physicality who also show plus agility and good hands. That's a first round talent every year, IMO.

We missed an opportunity to get a real value play here, IMO. That's a kid who has first round ability to slipped into the 2nd due to the depth of the position. Meanwhile in Moore I see a guy who's available most years in the 2nd day and is more of a player with 3rd round ability who rose up into the 2nd because of the insanity of the FA market.

Maybe it all works out, but from a pure value calculus I think we made a mistake. Pickens just has tools that you don't typically find at 50 where we could've had him...
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This is that attitude im talking about. He was doing it in college, now he's doing it in the pros.


I watched a Browns DB try to press him last night and Pickens shoved him out of position with one arm and went right by.
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I mean, i get that you've been a big Skyy Moore stan this whole time and DJ and I were vehemently against him leading up to the draft, but to say, "what skillset" c'man man. You know exactly what skillset.

You dont have to shit on Pickens to hype Moore.



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