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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Chief Roundup 08:58 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Its incentive to not fire anyone, if they fire or layoff a certain % its turns into a loan rather than a grant.
Right, my point is that we should not have to pay it back either as long as it is used within certain guidelines.
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notorious 09:01 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Yet the businesses do not have to pay back the monies as long as they use it to within certain guidelines? That seems pretty ****ed up.
My employees will get the boost, and they will have to pay it back through their tax filing.

I can go out and expand my business (spend money) and kick up expenses so my income is smaller for the next filing year and not have to pay it back.

It's always been this way.
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backinblack 09:09 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Turn off your TV log off Facebook. You are out of touch with reality.
Part of it is he reads another certain message board that is known for hosting people of his type and that worry and panic over every little thing(I know this because he copied and pasted a post from that board word for word here yesterday).
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Mecca 09:11 AM 03-26-2020
Apparently North Carolina has some rising numbers, they got over 600 in a day.
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Donger 09:12 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
why is Frances reporting so bad?
Perhaps they've surrendered.
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SupDock 09:13 AM 03-26-2020
The interesting part of the stimulus to me is the 0 dollar payment on federal student loans for 6 months.
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Chief Roundup 09:13 AM 03-26-2020
Will one of you quote the section that shows we have to shows we will have to pay it back through tax filings next year. Please
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dirk digler 09:14 AM 03-26-2020
A little bit ago I had a long convo with my daughter and what she is experiencing in KC in the ICU's unit she works in. Your odds are long if you get hospitalized for this, they have several middle aged or younger patients get it and seem fine with little or no symptoms then drop dead\crash all of a sudden. They have had only 1 so far that is about to be released but that person wasn't on a vent.

Also they are rationing supplies and they only get 1 set of everything for the whole shift including the doctor's.

Her advice to everyone is stay the **** inside, don't come near anybody and wash your hands constantly this isn't the ****ing flu.
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TLO 09:15 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Global mortality rate if you don't include China's numbers is 30%. I don't think anyone believes China's numbers are absolutely correct.

Deaths globally outside of China: 18,878
Recoveries globally outside of China: 44,088

It's possible not all recoveries have been reported. It's also likely that many have it and don't get tested or get reported as having Covid-19 and experience mild symptoms.

However, it appears pretty accurate because the United States isn't going to have many recoveries yet. Just 7 days ago we had 10,000 cases, now we have 69,000. When the majority of your cases are active cases, there aren't going to be many recoveries (or deaths) yet. This thing can take a couple of weeks, sometimes even longer, to reach a recovery or death so there is a lag time.

Italy has more recoveries because they were a couple weeks ahead of where we are at.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

This is worse than any of us want to believe. And if you don't think it is, then we need to be out there testing a sample of the general asymptomatic population to determine how many people actually have it and get a true mortality rate instead of just relying on China's original numbers.
If the mortality rate was anywhere close to that the virus would have already burned itself out.
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notorious 09:19 AM 03-26-2020
India isn't messing around!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indian-po...173328723.html
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O.city 09:19 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
A little bit ago I had a long convo with my daughter and what she is experiencing in KC in the ICU's unit she works in. Your odds are long if you get hospitalized for this, they have several middle aged or younger patients get it and seem fine with little or no symptoms then drop dead\crash all of a sudden. They have had only 1 so far that is about to be released but that person wasn't on a vent.

Also they are rationing supplies and they only get 1 set of everything for the whole shift including the doctor's.

Her advice to everyone is stay the **** inside, don't come near anybody and wash your hands constantly this isn't the ****ing flu.
Have they had quite a few pt's with it?
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Mecca 09:20 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
India isn't messing around!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indian-po...173328723.html
Not surprising it could spread like wildfire there.
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dirk digler 09:23 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Have they had quite a few pt's with it?

She didn't really say.
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Donger 09:23 AM 03-26-2020
Pretty cool:

James Dyson designed a new ventilator in 10 days. He's making 15,000 for the pandemic fight

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/tech/...rus/index.html

Dyson has received an order from the UK government for 10,000 ventilators to support efforts by the country's National Health Service to treat coronavirus patients.

James Dyson, the company's billionaire founder, confirmed the order in a letter to employees shared with CNN on Wednesday.

"A ventilator supports a patient who is no longer able to maintain their own airways, but sadly there is currently a significant shortage, both in the UK and other countries around the world," Dyson wrote.

Dyson said the company had designed and built an entirely new ventilator, called the "CoVent," since he received a call 10 days ago from UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

"This new device can be manufactured quickly, efficiently and at volume," Dyson added, saying that the new ventilator has been designed to "address the specific needs" of coronavirus patients.

A spokesperson for the company, which is best known for its vacuum cleaners and hand dryers, said the ventilators would be ready by early April. Dyson, who has wealth worth $10 billion according to Bloomberg, wrote in his letter that he would also donate 5,000 units to the international effort to tackle the pandemic.

"The core challenge was how to design and deliver a new, sophisticated medical product in volume and in an extremely short space of time," he added. "The race is now on to get it into production."

Healthcare workers in many parts of the world are having trouble enough critical supplies, such as masks, gloves and ventilators, to deal with the influx of patients suffering from the highly contagious virus.

A second UK firm, Gtech, is also working to produce ventilators and has submitted two examples to the government for assessment. The company specializes in cordless vacuum cleaners and garden power tools.

In the United States, Ford (F) has announced that it's working with 3M and GE Healthcare to produce medical equipment including ventilators and protective gear. GM (GM) and Tesla (TSLA) have also pledged to make ventilators.


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Hammock Parties 09:24 AM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
A little bit ago I had a long convo with my daughter and what she is experiencing in KC in the ICU's unit she works in. Your odds are long if you get hospitalized for this, they have several middle aged or younger patients get it and seem fine with little or no symptoms then drop dead\crash all of a sudden. They have had only 1 so far that is about to be released but that person wasn't on a vent.

Also they are rationing supplies and they only get 1 set of everything for the whole shift including the doctor's.

Her advice to everyone is stay the **** inside, don't come near anybody and wash your hands constantly this isn't the ****ing flu.
And yet there are people who get it and are fine in a week...

YMMV
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