Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by carlos3652:
14 days ago, Italy had 189 daily deaths on March 12th, 250 daily deaths on March 13th... USA was under 50 deaths at the time total.
USA just had 226 deaths yesterday in one day
2 weeks after they were saying we were on pace with Italy...
Who was right?
I’m not sure why anyone would disbelieve the data. It is literally staring all of us in the face. Comparing things to Italy would be dumb but you actually have a pool of infected so large that you can predict trends within a couple percent.
I posted that there would be 216 deaths today. There were 225.
For the next ten days the numbers are going to be easy to follow. After two weeks it will get harder because you should start seeing the effects of social distancing. That reduction in infected will get offset in some places by the lack of ventilators in others but if cities like LA can keep the rate of doubling down to every 3-4 days (or less) then we’ll peak around 3,000 per day which would be great. It’s NYC that’s going to be hard to watch over the next 2-3 weeks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
I’m not sure why anyone would disbelieve the data. It is literally staring all of us in the face. Comparing things to Italy would be dumb but you actually have a pool of infected so large that you can predict trends within a couple percent.
I posted that there would be 216 deaths today. There were 225.
For the next ten days the numbers are going to be easy to follow. After two weeks it will get harder because you should start seeing the effects of social distancing. That reduction in infected will get offset in some places by the lack of ventilators in others but if cities like LA can keep the rate of doubling down to every 3-4 days (or less) then we’ll peak around 3,000 per day which would be great. It’s NYC that’s going to be hard to watch over the next 2-3 weeks.
What’s nuts is that every country will go through this... not just us... just waiting on Belgium / Netherlands / France and Spain to explode in the next couple days. [Reply]
At least according to that John's Hopkins website our total new reported cases nationwide was less today than yesterday, so we have that going for us...which is nice. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Lurker:
About thirteen weeks from today, the surviving 3.6 billion people will die and the planet will be barren. We'll all be dead soon. It is math.
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
At least according to that John's Hopkins website our total new reported cases nationwide was less today than yesterday, so we have that going for us...which is nice.
The growth day over day has been a sliver of hope. New York and NYC are the main contributors to the problem as others have pointed out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Exactly. 14 days ago we were told that by today our streets were supposed to be flooded with dead bodies because Italy was bad but had a much better health care system than we do.
Seriously. That's what a lot of people were saying and you know that to be true as well.
Well, let's go back and look to see what posters on Chiefs Planet were saying 14 days ago. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
On May 4, we had 148 cases
On May 5, we had 221 cases
On May 6, we had 319 cases
On May 7, we had 435 cases
On May 8, we had 541 cases
On May 9, we had 658 cases
Today, we have 761 cases
Originally Posted by FD:
The prime minister of Italy begs to differ, but I guess he is in on the "hoax."
Italy's coronavirus death toll jumped from 366 to 463 on Monday. It is the worst-hit country after China.
Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY:
I gotta say it's a lot nicer out here in Cali with all the idiots staying home. Drove right down the Embarcadero yesterday with hardly any traffic. No bitchy people in the stores. Restaurants are much easier to get in. Nobody on their cell phones in the gym. Now if we could just find a way to keep them at home.
Originally Posted by Spott:
I have a cruise coming up soon and I hope it’s a similar experience. I had two flights over the weekend and didn’t notice a reduction in travelers.
Originally Posted by eDave:
Went to a Clan Of Xymox concert tonight. Packed house. No masks. Shared my vape with a few peeps.
Originally Posted by eDave:
Welp. In bed all day. Lingering fever, sporadic chills followed by profuse sweating, nausia comes and goes, body aches but only when I get up.
I'll see how I feel tomorrow.
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
During the current flu season, they point out, more than 250,000 people have been hospitalized in the United States, and 14,000 have died, including more than 100 children. As of this writing, the coronavirus has killed 29 people, and our caseload is in the hundreds. Why are we freaking out about the tiny threat while ignoring the big one?
Quite a number of people have suggested that it’s because the media just wants President Trump to look bad. Trump seems particularly fond of this suggestion.
But go back to those lily pads: When something dangerous is growing exponentially, everything looks fine until it doesn’t. In the early days of the Wuhan epidemic, when no one was taking precautions, the number of cases appears to have doubled every four to five days.
The crisis in northern Italy is what happens when a fast doubling rate meets a “threshold effect,” where the character of an event can massively change once its size hits a certain threshold.
Originally Posted by Donger:
1,050 cases now. Pretty good jump in a day
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
100% this, as more cases are reported you will see the mortality rate PLUNGE. And people will realize this is way more in-line with the common flu than some type of new KILLER.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Anyone claiming it doesn't have the potential to have the EXACT same mortality rate of the flu in the end are butt ****ing retarded.
Calm your tits
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
NBA talking about playing games infront of no fans ffs. Yes people are panicking ...
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Lets cancel March Madness the betters will go crazy.
Originally Posted by Spott:
You shouldn’t have a problem. I’m going to Cozumel the first week of May. If anything the place will be less crowded which should make it more enjoyable.
Originally Posted by suzzer99: 196 people died in Italy over the last 24 hours. Bigger single death toll then any one day in China.
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
In quarantine. Our community spread is 11 days behind them. 3 weeks ago Italy had 3 confirmed cases.
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
New projection just for US cases - using the same method.
I'm not sure if 88k overwhelms the hospital system. But our % of cases that need hospitalization must be really high since we're barely testing anyone.
Total cases: 44,183
Total deaths: 544
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands) [Reply]
An emotional Karl-Anthony Towns revealing that his mother, diagnosed with the coronavirus, is in a coma and connected to a ventilator. He’s clearly trying to further alert the public to the seriousness of the pandemic. https://t.co/NOP2b35J8H