Originally Posted by Rausch:
From all I've heard Lamar is a really good guy. I'd take no pride in bringing him to face the inevitable ourselves.
That said, one day, Allen is good enough to actually beat Mahomes and that can't be allowed...Make it the Ravens.
So the Ravens can’t beat the Chiefs?
Do you know how close the game was last year when the Ravens absolutely blew the gameplan and refused to run the ball? Or in September this year?
I don’t love the thought of facing either the Bills or the Ravens, but I think there’s no question the Bills are the less talented team. And I think we tend to match up a bit better with them too.
Am I more afraid of Allen hero ball than the Lamar equivalent? Sure. I’d grant you that. But the Ravens are a much more complete team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Now that the Ravens have won, we should absolutely want the Bills to win.
We need those teams to beat each other up next weekend while we get the Texans.
The alternative where we play a physical and aggressive Broncos team again while the Ravens get the Texans is absolutely not a path that gives us any additional advantage in the AFCCG, let alone next weekend.
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
So the Ravens can’t beat the Chiefs?
Do you know how close the game was last year when the Ravens absolutely blew the gameplan and refused to run the ball? Or in September this year?
Was it?
Was it really?
We scored 14 pts on the first two drives and then played smart and conservative. It was all we needed all game. They never really challenged us and if they did Mahomes would have bit down and pulled one more drive out of his ass.
The Ravens did what they always do: get frustrated under pressure and self-distruct. They have no discipline and no experience winning big games. Until they actually do they'll rely on Lamar to put on the cape and that route has failed them every single time. [Reply]
We scored 14 pts on the first two drives and then played smart and conservative. It was all we needed all game. They never really challenged us and if they did Mahomes would have bit down and pulled one more drive out of his ass.
The Ravens did what they always do: get frustrated under pressure and self-distruct. They have no discipline and no experience winning big games. Until they actually do they'll rely on Lamar to put on the cape and that route has failed them every single time.
This is crazy. We needed a 3rd and long pass to MVS to ice the game.
If Flowers doesn’t fumble at the goal line, it’s a very different game.
If Likely’s toe isn’t on the line, we probably lose the opener.
This is crazy. We needed a 3rd and long pass to MVS to ice the game.
If Flowers doesn’t fumble at the goal line, it’s a very different game.
If Likely’s toe isn’t on the line, we probably lose the opener.
Some of you exist in a different reality.
Lotta “IFs” in there. Kind of sound like excuses Ravens fans make. Chiefs keep beating Baltimore because they are more adept at making plays when the game is on the line. Also naive to just assume Lamar gets that two point conversion if Likely has his toe in. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic:
Lotta “IFs” in there. Kind of sound like excuses Ravens fans make. Chiefs keep beating Baltimore because they are more adept at making plays when the game is on the line. Also naive to just assume Lamar gets that two point conversion if Likely has his toe in.
It sounds like one “if” in each game played.
I’m not arguing that the Ravens are some unbeatable juggernaut, but to act like they’re not the threat the Bills are simply because they don’t get have a win over us ignores a lot of the reality around the games. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
It sounds like one “if” in each game played.
I’m not arguing that the Ravens are some unbeatable juggernaut, but to act like they’re not the threat the Bills are simply because they don’t get have a win over us ignores a lot of the reality around the games.
I think the Ravens are better than the Bills, but I want the Ravens in the AFCCG.
Ravens didn’t get the luxury of resting in Week 18. They’ve gotten dinged a bit each of the last few weeks.
I could see them winning another physical battle in Buffalo and limping into KC.
That’s the best of the realistic scenarios for the Chiefs. [Reply]
This is crazy. We needed a 3rd and long pass to MVS to ice the game.
If Flowers doesn’t fumble at the goal line, it’s a very different game.
If Likely’s toe isn’t on the line, we probably lose the opener.
Some of you exist in a different reality.
I exist in the reality where the Ravens always fail. They're always close but no cigar. They always have stupid penalties that cost them and always look good while failing to get it done.
KC literally went down their first two drives and got TD's. That's all they needed. The Ravens had THREE QUARTERS to get points and couldn't do it. That's failure. That's not luck, that's not being close, that's complete failure.
The Ravens killed themselves with turnovers. That's not luck - Lamar is ass when it matters and our player punched out the football. They made plays. Flowers wasn't running untouched and just dropped it. He didn't step in a hole - the KC D made plays all game and the Ravens made stupid mistakes.
Lamar would have had an additional INT if he wasn't faster than most LB's and beat the defense to a tipped pass with two defenders there ready to catch it. That's luck.
It's not luck that the Ravens fail, the exact same way, every single time. It's repeatable. It's tested. It's science that Lamar sucks under pressure and KC did enough in quarter 1 to win the game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
In a game that would likely be close, the Chiefs being rested may be the difference.
If the Chiefs play the Ravens it will play out exactly like it always does: KC will jump out to an early lead, Lamar will scramble a ton and score enough to make the game close, KC will seal the win in the end with the Ravens offense and Lamar failing to get it done.
You can bet there will be personal fouls and penalties when the reality of the situation sinks in and Ravens know they can't win. There will be dirty plays, that's who they are, and the bully will get bullied.
When they can't play with a lead and run the football they lose. They either win big vs. inferior teams or lose close games. [Reply]
I think you always want to play the team with the worst quarterback in the playoffs. In this case, that's the broncos. Plus, if they can manage to pull off a win, they'll knock the second-best quarterback out of the AFC playoffs. That's a double win. [Reply]
This is crazy. We needed a 3rd and long pass to MVS to ice the game.
If Flowers doesn’t fumble at the goal line, it’s a very different game.
If Likely’s toe isn’t on the line, we probably lose the opener.
Some of you exist in a different reality.
Given how well the Chiefs moved the ball in the first half of the AFCCG, it really seemed like they were betting Jackson couldn't score 10 points in the 2nd half... I think if Sneed doesn't make that play at the goal line, the offense turns it back on (of course, no guarantees against that defense).
And I'm not disagreeing at all... the Chiefs do have a magical way of figuring out how to win games, but I also think as other QBs get more and more postseason experience, the more likely they'll figure it out at the end of games, too.
The Bills made the play at the end of their regular season Super Bowl and eventually they'll probably do that in a playoff game, whether it's against the Ravens next week or in the AFCCG or later. Hell, he did everything he could to win :13, so he's already been there once.
I'm slightly less confidence the Ravens will one day win a SB with Jackson, but if Bills/Chiefs games are 50/50, it's not like Chiefs/Ravens is 75/25... maybe they're more like 55/45 at the most. [Reply]
And I figured we wouldn't know who the Chiefs play until MNF, but I guess with Rams/Vikings being the 4 vs 5 match up, maybe we'll know tonight... they'll know all the match ups by the end of tonight's game and not sure the Rams or Vikings winning really moves the needle for slotting the divisional round game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
And I figured we wouldn't know who the Chiefs play until MNF, but I guess with Rams/Vikings being the 4 vs 5 match up, maybe we'll know tonight... they'll know all the match ups by the end of tonight's game and not sure the Rams or Vikings winning really moves the needle for slotting the divisional round game.
If Denver wins against Buffalo, we play them.
But as for day and time, yeah, you're likely correct. [Reply]