Originally Posted by Dante84:
What about swinging the below trade with the Eagles?
Philly: #32 + Sneed
KC: #22 + #53
We move up 10 spots in the first to get our BPA at OT or WR, and we get #53.
KC picks:
#22
#53
#64
EDIT: Shit, this would even position us to slide up further if there's a guy in the 12-16 range we covet.
I was wondering about that very idea in the other Sneed thread and it felt like too big a haul.
Getting from 32 to 22 is essentially going to cost a late 2nd. So it would be like trading Sneed for a pair of 2nds. I don't think Philly would give up that much. [Reply]
FYI - if we did that, I'd probably go Guyton/Mims and then Walker/McMillan with our 2 2nd rounders.
OT in the first and a pair of WR possibilities that would both complement Rice in their own way in the 2nd. Use the 3rd and 4th round on IOL and DT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pinchshot:
We're not getting the 3 peat with BOTH Jones and Snead. There's no one in the draft that will make an impact like those 2.
I'd trade either or for a pro bowl left tackle on a rookie contract at this point in their careers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pinchshot:
We're not getting the 3 peat without BOTH Jones and Snead. There's no one in the draft that will make an impact like those 2.
I've heard "We're not doing X" far too often over the last two seasons to think it will ever EVER apply.
We MIGHT not get the job done one of these years. In fact every season the odds favor that we won't. The field is a better bet every time.
But how can anyone watch what we've seen the last 2 seasons and say "eh, we're not going anywhere" on the basis of losing a single player not named Patrick Mahomes?
We don't NEED both of those guys to 3-peat. We didn't need Tyreek Hill to win in 2022. We didn't need DeAndre Hopkins to win in 2023. We won't need Chris Jones and La'Jarius Sneed in 2024. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pinchshot:
We're not getting the 3 peat without BOTH Jones and Snead. There's no one in the draft that will make an impact like those 2.
Originally Posted by Pinchshot:
We're not getting the 3 peat without BOTH Jones and Snead. There's no one in the draft that will make an impact like those 2.
A moderate upgrade at the WR group would offset Sneed's departure [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I've heard "We're not doing X" far too often over the last two seasons to think it will ever EVER apply.
We MIGHT not get the job done one of these years. In fact every season the odds favor that we won't. The field is a better bet every time.
But how can anyone watch what we've seen the last 2 seasons and say "eh, we're not going anywhere" on the basis of losing a single player not named Patrick Mahomes?
We don't NEED both of those guys to 3-peat. We didn't need Tyreek Hill to win in 2022. We didn't need DeAndre Hopkins to win in 2023. We won't need Chris Jones and La'Jarius Sneed in 2024.
“Chief for Life” only applies to Mahomes (for now at least, almost every great has a second team late in their career).
Everyone else can/will be replaced. Kelce being the only other exception. He seems to just be playing for the rings. He’d probably retire before playing elsewhere. [Reply]
I'm far more inclined to lose Sneed than Jones because this draft class is stacked in the top 50-60 at CB.
All of these guys can play:
Terrion Arnold, Alabama
Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
Cooper DeJean, Iowa
Nate Wiggins, Clemson
Kool Aid McKinstry, Alabama
Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
Ennis Rakestraw, Missouri
Kalen King, Penn State
TJ Tampa, Iowa State
Give me any one of those guys in the top 2 rounds and I guarantee the impact from losing Sneed drops a full degree.
If you have to use the pick from trading Sneed to get a CB, it's not a loss because you've gained the cap space to retain the other parts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The NFC is just so wide open. And the FA market is flush with cash to the point that it's actually a little dangerous to go dabbling in it.
I believe it was like the 2013 NBA offseason (edit: 2016 offseason) where all the TV money hit at once and the cap went up something like 30% in a single offseason. Everyone had money and man did they spend it in the stupidest ways imagineable. Pretty much every team that signed a FA regretted it immediately.
That's just what happens in a flush marketplace. Stupid money gets thrown around and the only way to win at that point is not to play.
Well the Lions HAVE to get better. The NFC is too wide open and they came too far (and too fast) to just sit on their hands. They need to improve their defense and the smart way for them to do that is to avoid FA in the process.
So you trade for Sneed and his tag charge, use that as leverage to put together a more reasonable extension and you're cooking with gas.
Absolutely everything about a trade for Sneed makes sense from the Lions perspective. The only question will be how much you could extract from them in the process. It would likely be a pretty fair amount.
I'll be honest, though, I really don't want to lose Sneed. He's a bit of a unicorn as a physically dominant shut-down corner. If his knee really isn't great though, I could see moving on. As I've said around a billion times already, I trust the FO to make the right decision. [Reply]