EDIT: Timeline below.
1. Darlington & Schefter report Brady is retiring.
2. TB12, Tom’s brand/company, tweet (then later delete) about his retirement.
3. Toms teammates tweet about his retirement.
4. Tom’s agent, dad, Arians, and Licht all say Tom hasn’t decided yet.
5. Ian Rappaport says many sources confirm Tom plans to retire but the pushback is due to timing.
6. Tom announces retirement again in 2023. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They were a perfect match. Let’s not act like Bill’s incredible defenses didn’t contribute to Brady’s success, especially early in his career
Even later in his career. Let’s not pretend that after beating KC in Mahomes first AFCCG he went on to dominate the Rams. He was awful and it took a masterpiece of a defense by Belechick that won that SB. But Brady fan boys don’t want to acknowledge that. They just want to count that ring towards their argument that Brady is the goat-iest of GOATs and his rings are all about his efforts. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They were a perfect match. Let’s not act like Bill’s incredible defenses didn’t contribute to Brady’s success, especially early in his career
Even late in his career. Belichick's defense held a pretty explosive Rams offense to 3 points in the Super Bowl. That Rams offense averaged more than 30 points per game in the 2018 season. Holding them to 3 points is absolutely nuts.
And when he left Belichick, Brady had a very strong Tampa defense that bailed him out when he had 3 INT's in the conference title game against the Packers. That defense also held an explosive Chiefs offense to less than 10 points in the Super Bowl.
Brady is obviously one of the best QB's ever, but it's still a team game at the end of the day. You stick him on a team with a shitty defense for his entire career and he might not have any rings at all. This statement applies to every quarterback. [Reply]
The only GOAT worthy trait that stands out about Brady purely as a QB when you take out all the team hardware is he did have the clutch gene that Joe Montana had and Mahomes clearly has. Otherwise there is nothing that ever wowed me about his play. The years he put up monster numbers he had Moss who made an old Cunningham, Culpepper and even Jeff George look like all pros. [Reply]
I know he played around with game-day equipment. Tapped opposing teams defenses in secret. Would be interested in knowing what else this average statue pocket passing QB did to gain an advantage. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They were a perfect match. Let’s not act like Bill’s incredible defenses didn’t contribute to Brady’s success, especially early in his career
Um, have you looked at Bill's record without Brady? [Reply]
Originally Posted by GoForIt:
I have Russell as the GOAT of the NBA but one can make the argument of era when comparing him with Jordan. The league was not as integrated as Jordan's era and there were far few teams. Brady has played his entire career during the Cap/FA era which is the toughest era to play in given teams can't keep their players like they could when Montana, Starr, etc played. Plus, Brady has literally every single record from winning to stats. And he owns all of them by a ton over any past player or current.
Now do top 10 defenses, and OLs. Dude never accomplished shit without either. There’s tons of quarterbacks in this league that would have won multiple championships had they switched places with him. Hell, Mahomes would probably go undefeated, and actually won the final game!
Edit: we saw how good he looked this year without a top 10 OL and defense. Pretty average TBH. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
They were a perfect match. Let’s not act like Bill’s incredible defenses didn’t contribute to Brady’s success, especially early in his career
Reid is a perfect match for Mahomes. Walsh for Montana who had Rice, etc..
See how this works?
What great QB didn't have a great HC and a good surrounding team? How many HOF RBs had a bad oline throughout their career? It's a team game, this isn't boxing.
I don't see how you can downplay what Brady did because he had a lot of help. He can't do it by himself no but who can? [Reply]
PAChiefsGuy 02-03-2023, 01:49 AM
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Reason: Repost sorry guys
Playing in the AFC Least sure didn't hurt; that division was a dumpster fire for two decades. Since the division has gotten better, Brady left and Belicheat isn't winning like he used to. [Reply]
