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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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tredadda 05:07 PM 09-30-2021
Originally Posted by ROYC75:
Plus you had Boise State and San Diego State today saying they would not join AAC and stay with the Mountain West because they were waiting on a Big 12 or a PAC 13 possible bid.
I just don't see Boise State getting a PAC 12 bid. They bring nothing of value to that conference.
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RustShack 05:23 PM 09-30-2021
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I just don't see Boise State getting a PAC 12 bid. They bring nothing of value to that conference.
Obviously it’s all shit on the wall at the moment, but about a month ago I heard people in the industry are expecting 70-80 “power schools”, rather than the earlier assumed P4, 64 schools. The question was if that’s a P5, P4, or P2.

The 70-80 sounded kind of strange, but then the Big12 started expanding.
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Pitt Gorilla 07:17 PM 09-30-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.
Which part of that isn't compete dogshit?
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BryanBusby 08:28 PM 09-30-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
So I’ve heard from a few different people that there are a few PAC12 schools interested in joining the Big12. Obviously it would be a few years out from now, and would be based on how media negotiations go for both conferences.

But allegedly Arizona, Arizona St, and Colorado are interested in joining the Big12. The 4th school mentioned with them is Boise St(?), personally I’d prefer Memphis, but surprised Utah wasn’t the 4th.

I’d assume that’s a backup plan for them if the B1G rumors of adding 4-6 of Oregon, USC, and so on. Or who knows, maybe the Big12 ends up with that rumored Amazon deal who’s known to overpay and wants the Big12 at 14-16 teams.

I think this four pod Big12 could be fun.

Arizona
Arizona St
Colorado
BYU

Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State

Texas Tech
Houston
Baylor
TCU

Cincinnati
Memphis
West Virginia
UCF

But I’m still holding out hope that the B1G expands, and it’s with Iowa State and Kansas.

Fuck, thought I had been huffing paint and reading this from weeks ago.

This shit again?
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lawrenceRaider 05:31 AM 10-01-2021
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Which part of that isn't compete dogshit?
As fantasies go, it's not bad. Not that any of those teams from the PAC12 are particularly desirable.
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lawrenceRaider 05:36 AM 10-02-2021
Rusty, WTF is wrong with your Uni?

https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-state-st...221513143.html
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Pablo 05:56 AM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Rusty, WTF is wrong with your Uni?

https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-state-st...221513143.html
The lesbian cousin of the family lashes out at Thanksgiving dinner! BOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Pasta Little Brioni 06:25 AM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Lol. If retards keep tuning in to see the same few teams dominate and one of them win the title every year, there’s no incentive to improve the sport
Yet it's still a better product than the garbage play in college hoops. Holy hell what a pile of shit it's become.
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lawrenceRaider 06:40 AM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
Yet it's still a better product than the garbage play in college hoops. Holy hell what a pile of shit it's become.
I can't remember the last college football game I watched start to finish.

I do watch many college basketball games start to finish including games not featuring KU.

To me it is much better than college football these days.
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Pasta Little Brioni 06:47 AM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
I can't remember the last college football game I watched start to finish.

I do watch many college basketball games start to finish including games not featuring KU.

To me it is much better than college football these days.
Oh ya Big Clank Freethrowathon conference hoops is just the pinnacle!
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lawrenceRaider 07:03 AM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother:
Oh ya Big Clank Freethrowathon conference hoops is just the pinnacle!
What conference are you watching? While some games fit your description, they don't seem to be the norm.

Also, college football games have little in the way of drama. The winner is pretty much known before kickoff.
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Prison Bitch 12:27 PM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
What conference are you watching? While some games fit your description, they don't seem to be the norm.

Also, college football games have little in the way of drama. The winner is pretty much known before kickoff.
Sure was today in CoMo. Mizzouche down 45-10 at half

:-)
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MarkDavis'Haircut 02:19 PM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Rusty, WTF is wrong with your Uni?

https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-state-st...221513143.html
So tired of the LGBTQIAD+#B groups complaining about everything.

Go away.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 02:20 PM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I just don't see Boise State getting a PAC 12 bid. They bring nothing of value to that conference.
Boise isn't. Their academics are terrible by Pac 12 standards. Presidents make the vote. They aren't inviting a regional university.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 02:24 PM 10-02-2021
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Oh yeah sure sure. Ranked as high as #6 last year, NY6 win over Oregon, beat Oklahoma(again) last year, made the Big12 Championship last year, preseason #7 this year, currently 14 even after a loss to a team with no offense. I’d say we are good. Notoriously bad in September under CMC, but we’ll be fine the rest of the year.

What’s your definition of good? Only the team who wins the national title? Or only the four who make the playoffs?

I didn’t say great, or elite. You’re an idiot if you don’t think Matt Campbell’s Iowa State is good.
Both Coastal Carolina and Louisiana Lafayette (a team that whipped your ass) deserves that NY6 slot over Iowa State. But the biased CFP committee made sure that the P5 team was protected.

It was a sick joke. Big 12 got owned by the Sun Belt on the field but the committee made sure to cater to their bias.
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