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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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staylor26 03:46 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
If we pick Mafe over Dax, I will be drinking heavily.
Not me. They’re very close, and EDGE is a much bigger need and the more valuable position.
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The Franchise 03:46 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Lane is definitely more cocky, but I think he’s more knowledgeable, so I guess that’s why he’s a bit more tolerable.
I just can't stand his fucking voice. And watching a video of them talking is worse because I can't stand his fucking face either.
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staylor26 03:48 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
That's almost worst case scenario of picks before the Chiefs
If you think that’s worst case scenario, you might be very disappointed.
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Nightfyre 03:51 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Not me. They’re very close, and EDGE is a much bigger need and the more valuable position.
Mafe is so overrated imo. The guy is 24 and barely produced in college. He is athletic but lacks ideal l length and his mental game remained behind the curve even at the collegiate level. He screams bust to me.
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staylor26 03:57 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
Mafe is so overrated imo. The guy is 24 and barely produced in college. He is athletic but lacks ideal l length and his mental game remained behind the curve even at the collegiate level. He screams bust to me.
Age is the only problem for me.

I also think the production thing is a bit overblown. He had 7 sacks last year. He’s not exactly Oweh.

And just like I argued for Oweh despite the lack of production, it’s about traits.

Mafe has the traits to be a double digit sack guy. He also has the character and work ethic to reach his upside.

If he were 22, he would probably be a top 20 pick.
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The Franchise 04:00 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Age is the only problem for me.

I also think the production thing is a bit overblown. He had 7 sacks last year. He’s not exactly Oweh.

And just like I argued for Oweh despite the lack of production, it’s about traits.

Mafe has the traits to be a double digit sack guy. He also has the character and work ethic to reach his upside.

If he were 22, he would probably be a top 20 pick.
He's 24 and not great against the run.

I'm also aware that you aren't getting some complete DE at 29 or 30 either.
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staylor26 04:07 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
He's 24 and not great against the run.

I'm also aware that you aren't getting some complete DE at 29 or 30 either.
I think he’s better against the run than he’s given credit for. It’s not like he’s Dee Ford. It’s adequate for WDE IMO.

I realize he’s 24, as I said that’s my only real issue, but he also has the upside to get a lot better quickly.

From Zierlein:

Originally Posted by :
His combination of rare explosive measurables with average fundamentals could make for a perfect storm of rapid development once he gets focused skill work at the pro level.
That’s similar to what a lot of the experts are saying about him, which makes me feel a little better about his age.
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Nightfyre 04:10 PM 04-15-2022
Ebiketie is a better get than Mafe imo, if you want a player with a similar profile. Longer, better bend. Somewhat less refined as he got a late football start, but with evident progress and work ethic.
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staylor26 04:16 PM 04-15-2022
Mafe is already on the borderline for a Spags DE.

Ebiketie, who’s smaller, doesn’t meet any of the thresholds besides maybe arm length.

He’s also not as fast/explosive as Mafe.

I don’t think he’s far off, but Mafe is the better prospect IMO.

And enough can’t be said about Mafe’s supposed character and work ethic.

NFL teams love guys with upside that have the intangibles to go with it. It’s another reason I argued for Oweh last year. You have a much better chance of reaching your potential when you have the drive to get there.
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TambaBerry 04:25 PM 04-15-2022
I'd rather have Enagbare then Mafe
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duncan_idaho 04:35 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I'll just tell you right now that they probably have Moore rated over Dotson, Pickens and Watson.

I never listen to them, but WTF?

All 3 of those guys are better athletes who project way better to the NFL.

Are they PFF pounders or something? I know that system loves him. Otherwise don’t get it.
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staylor26 04:39 PM 04-15-2022
They actually love Pickens.

He’s their WR1 IIRC. They think the Chiefs would have to trade up for him lol.
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The Franchise 05:31 PM 04-15-2022
Detroit traded #66 and their 2023 1st round pick for #29.

30. Devonte Wyatt, DT Georgia
50. David Ojabo, EDGE Michigan
62. Bernhard Raimann, OT Central Michigan
66. Skyy Moore, WR Western Michigan
94. Sam Williams, EDGE Mississippi
103. Zyon McCollum, CB Sam Houston State
121. Bryan Cook, S Cincinnati
135. Pierre Strong Jr., RB South Dakota State
2023 DET 1st
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chop 05:31 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They actually love Pickens.

He’s their WR1 IIRC. They think the Chiefs would have to trade up for him lol.

Pickens is their #1 WR.

I listened to part of their video and Burks and Pickens were available but they wanted to mix things up and draft by pretending they were already off the board. Most mock drafts have Pickens/Burks available at the Chiefs pick but they think he/they should go higher so they wanted to draft with that being the case.
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duncan_idaho 08:59 PM 04-15-2022
Originally Posted by chop:
Pickens is their #1 WR.

I listened to part of their video and Burks and Pickens were available but they wanted to mix things up and draft by pretending they were already off the board. Most mock drafts have Pickens/Burks available at the Chiefs pick but they think he/they should go higher so they wanted to draft with that being the case.
EVERYONE IS GOING IN THE FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!

I mean, if Pickens goes before the Chiefs, I'll be surprised.

But even if he does, that doesn't mean you panic and take Skyy Moore at that spot.
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