Originally Posted by RunKC:
Watson is a top 5 QB and probably the 2nd best in the AFC. Unfortunately he plays in the same conference as Mahomes, so he’s screwed.
Charles Barkley was damn good too, but never won a championship bc Michael Jordan was in era.
Pretty good comparison. It's kinda like the horse that was really damn fast but just happened to be the same age as Secretariat. Well damn. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I would agree but saying Watson is just fine or even 'good' is a bit disingenuous.
He's got a couple weaknesses, as do most QBs, but he's really not being placed in a situation that gives him the best chance to succeed. He's got a crap OL, no receivers outside of Hopkins, no TE, no RB (I guess Duke is a pretty good pass catcher) and a shitty defense.
Hyde had a 1000 yard season, so saying he doesn't have a RB is inaccurate.
He didn't have the kid from Texas Tech, Keke Coutee, who was a great 2nd/3rd option, and Fuller was coming off of a concussion.
I think that CP tears Watson down more than he deserves. I think it's a reflex from a time, before Mahomes, where we needed to tear other QBs down, so we didn't feel so badly about ours.
He is absolutely not as good as Mahomes. But honestly, who is?
I think if we had drafted Watson, we would be very happy with him. Watson didn't come to the Chiefs, Mahomes did. If it was swapped, Mahomes probably wouldn't be quite this good, and Watson would probably be a little better than he is now.
But, IDGAF about any other QB in this league. My team finally has an MVP QB, and the best QB in the NFL. And we deserve it.
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Hyde had a 1000 yard season, so saying he doesn't have a RB is inaccurate.
He didn't have the kid from Texas Tech, Keke Coutee, who was a great 2nd/3rd option, and Fuller was coming off of a concussion.
I think that CP tears Watson down more than he deserves. I think it's a reflex from a time, before Mahomes, where we needed to tear other QBs down, so we didn't feel so badly about ours.
He is absolutely not as good as Mahomes. But honestly, who is?
I think if we had drafted Watson, we would be very happy with him. Watson didn't come to the Chiefs, Mahomes did. If it was swapped, Mahomes probably wouldn't be quite this good, and Watson would probably be a little better than he is now.
But, IDGAF about any other QB in this league. My team finally has an MVP QB, and the best QB in the NFL. And we deserve it.
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That was more in comparison to Mahomes' weapons. Watson had Carlos Hyde as his feature back, who would have been our 5th string RB. Our OL is better. Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman >>>>>>>>>>>> Hopkins, Fuller, Coutee, Fells.
The bold is kind of what I'm getting at. Mahomes is definitely the better player IMO, but it isn't really a fair comparison. [Reply]
Lets quit using Bill O Brien as the scape goat for Deshaun Watson. Plenty of good QBs over come crap coaches. Also why does Bill get so much hate? Is it because hes a patriot douche? Hes been Houston's coach for 6 years and has only had 1 season that they weren't above .500 and that one season was Watson's rookie year. B.O.B had trash at QB before Watson, yet they still won games. Now that he has Watson he's had back to back double digit win seasons and back to back AFC South titles.
Now im not saying he's a great coach, but he's no where near as bad as people make him out to be. Hes not some huge weight on Deshauns heels holding him down. Deshaun is a really good qb, but watching that game on Sunday should be enough to show everyone that he's not anywhere close to the same level as Mahomes. Do any of you think if the roles were reversed that Mahomes would have went out there drive after drive and shit the bed over and over, just letting the game get out of reach. Thats not Bills fault, Deshaun just couldnt execute. [Reply]