Originally Posted by JPH83:
Got to think they will given our lack of alternatives.
I don't know I'm as high on him as some, but we desperately needed a DT, and he looked the best left at that point. Definite upgrade on Wharton too. Got to be pretty happy with the pick.
How is this dude a “definite upgrade” on Wharton? Wharton got 6.5 sacks last year and landed a $54M contract. ONL might be a fine player one day but I think we’re expecting too much if we think he’s going to be an upgrade compared to Wharton in year 1. It usually takes these defensive linemen a couple years of development anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Clearly, the Chiefs wanted to get a guy who could get after the quarterback with this one. Felt like a rather substantial reach, but that's whatever at this point. Farmer is still on the board headed into day 3, so they obviously had a much higher ranking on Lott. Like the player, concerned about him holding up against the run, and there is a development runway.
Chris Jones struggled against the run for years. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah - there are folks online giving this pick the worst grade of the DRAFT so far and the reason is pure confirmation bias.
"We didn't have him ranked this high..."
But he has an OBVIOUS nfl skill and a high value one at that.
I can see preferring a different position or trait - fine. But ONL is gonna be a valuable NFL player.
Never understood how a guy that can get to the QB on the interior like he does was ranked so low by so many.
YouTube guys like Kollman, Sikkema, Rogers and some of the other draft guys I listen to all loved him. Yet the more plugged in people like DJ were very low on him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I mentioned Dre'mont Jones as a guy here reminded me of a bit last week.
And Jones never really did get a ton better. But he's had a nice NFL career being exactly the guy he always was.
I was actually thinking a bit of Nick Fairley who ironically was the comp for Jones.
They really need to add a 5 yard split to the combine to measure as well as a first step explosion metric bc ONM’s 1.79 10 yd split doesn’t do him justice. He’s extremely quick off the snap and has long arms, enormous hands and a solid set of pass rush moves.
Wharton didn’t quite put it together until last year. I think ONM can give us 2024 Wharton this year bc his ceiling is higher.
Thank God we took guys with pass rush ability like bc I never understood the appeal for guys like Alfred Collins who had size but wasn’t that much of a pass rusher aside from a strong bull rush. [Reply]
Imagine a John bones jones vs Butterbean mma fight with both in their prime and watching them beat on each other. That’s how undersized DLinemen succeed [Reply]