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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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|Zach| 09:36 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
No, but Iowa State is good this year.. unless you think Mizzou sucks, because they are the worst team ISU has lost to. And they are lucky they played ISU when they did instead of now that they are starting to click. They were also a better team last year than they were the year before when they won their Bowl game.
52-17
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KcMizzou 09:38 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
No, but Iowa State is good this year.. unless you think Mizzou sucks, because they are the worst team ISU has lost to. And they are lucky they played ISU when they did instead of now that they are starting to click. They were also a better team last year than they were the year before when they won their Bowl game.
Missouri beat your team 52-17.

Fifty two, to seventeen.
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|Zach| 09:40 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
Missouri beat your team 52-17.

Fifty two, to seventeen.
I guess they didn't get RustShack's annual proclamation.


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RustShack 09:42 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
Missouri beat your team 52-17.

Fifty two, to seventeen.
Thats the only game all year that ISU played that poorly in. They beat themselves. They've played much better against much better teams. If Barnett was our QB instead of three and out Jantz it wouldn't have been like that at all. Jantz was great, until he got hurt. Then the offense just couldn't move because his mobility was a big part of his success.
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|Zach| 09:43 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Thats the only game all year that ISU played that poorly in. They beat themselves. They've played much better against much better teams. If Barnett was our QB instead of three and out Jantz it wouldn't have been like that at all. Jantz was great, until he got hurt. Then the offense just couldn't move because his mobility was a big part of his success.
lol
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RustShack 09:44 PM 11-29-2011
How mad are you guys going to be when ISU gets picked over Mizzou(again) for a better bowl game?
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KcMizzou 09:45 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Thats the only game all year that ISU played that poorly in. They beat themselves. They've played much better against much better teams. If Barnett was our QB instead of three and out Jantz it wouldn't have been like that at all. Jantz was great, until he got hurt. Then the offense just couldn't move because his mobility was a big part of his success.
Ahhh... understood.
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|Zach| 09:45 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
How mad are you guys going to be when ISU gets picked over Mizzou(again) for a better bowl game?
Not very. We know the Big 12 will bone Missouri. No biggie. There is a reason we are leaving the toxic conference.

Mizzou's new down year is an 8 win season. :-)
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Saul Good 09:46 PM 11-29-2011
Mad enough to move to the SEC.
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KcMizzou 09:48 PM 11-29-2011
It's tough to beat yourself by 35 points.


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RustShack 09:51 PM 11-29-2011
Nah I understand that thats probably the only ISU game you guys watched this year, so its a little harder for you to grasp thats not how they normally play.

Their other losses they would look like the more dominate team up until either fumbling, throwing an INT, or committing a stupid penalty in a key situation. But thats too be expected from a young team I guess. Good thing most of them are returning next year :-)
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RustShack 09:52 PM 11-29-2011
Nah I understand that thats probably the only ISU game you guys watched this year, so its a little harder for you to grasp thats not how they normally play.

Their other losses they would look like the more dominate team up until either fumbling, throwing an INT, or committing a stupid penalty in a key situation. But thats too be expected from a young team I guess. Good thing most of them are returning next year :-)
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Saul Good 09:53 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by KcMizzou:
It's tough to beat yourself by 35 points.

I haven't seen anyone beat themselves that bad since INXS broke up.
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|Zach| 09:57 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by RustShack:
Nah I understand that thats probably the only ISU game you guys watched this year, so its a little harder for you to grasp thats not how they normally play.

Their other losses they would look like the more dominate team up until either fumbling, throwing an INT, or committing a stupid penalty in a key situation. But thats too be expected from a young team I guess. Good thing most of them are returning next year :-)
Oh. NEXT year they are gonna be good. How exciting. Sucks we won't be around for the automatic win though.
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KcMizzou 09:57 PM 11-29-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I haven't seen anyone beat themselves that bad since INXS broke up.
:-)

Hilarious.
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