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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Creed Humphrey Thread*****
MahomesMagic 01:44 PM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer
I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.
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Easy 6 03:22 PM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I want Creed to protect Mahomes the rest of his career.
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Wisconsin_Chief 02:45 PM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
This mindset probably changed after the SB debacle vs the Bucs. Creed is the best C in football and his elite pass protection is incredibly valuable.

Nourzad is best fit as a G. I think the insane price hike of G’s getting $20+ million made the Trey Smith decision an easy one. Nourzad will most likely take over in 2025 for Trey.

C is a cheap position. You can give Creed a LTD and make it backloaded to where you’re paying roughly $12-13 million most of the contract.

So the question is: is Creed worth paying an inflated MVS contract in terms of cap hits?

Easy answer
Very logical take, hopefully they are looking at it like this as well.
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Direckshun 09:37 AM 06-16-2024
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
They did draft one, but he’s got a very high ceiling. Hate to say it but I think Creed is a goner next year, he’s going to get a ridiculous offer from someone and I don’t think the Chiefs will even be close. I don’t see how you drop $15 million a year on a center in this offense, which is the bare minimum Creed is going to get.

They let Rodney Hudson walk, they let Mitch Morse walk, and we won our first Super Bowl with a street free agent at center. Unless they’re planning on moving on from Thuney, but with such a young LT that seems unlikely. We’ll see, but just going by the trends they’ve already set it seems like he’s probably gone.
I think you probably throw big money at Creed, because you're not dropping big coin on left tackle for at least a few years.

Trey Smith is probably a goner, though.
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Nickhead 12:52 AM 06-14-2024
the only knock on him that i have is he must have short arms as he can't keep his helmet behind the line of scrimmage :-)
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Bowser 05:55 AM 06-14-2024
The only additional thing I ask from Creed this season is for all of his shotgun snaps to hit Mahomes between the 1 and the 5.
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Bump 02:00 PM 06-14-2024
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The only additional thing I ask from Creed this season is for all of his shotgun snaps to hit Mahomes between the 1 and the 5.
ya the low snaps were noticeable. But he's still the best center in the league and I would have no issue if they gave him a contract and I'll trust Veach if they don't.
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ThrobProng 08:02 AM 06-14-2024
Watching clips of him in his first training camp was unreal. His lateral quickness in 1-on-1 drills was off the charts.
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BWillie 04:50 PM 06-14-2024
Paying a center elite money is like paying top dollar for this offense to get a RB who isn't a threat to pass catch. It would be a terrible use of funds.

We don't run the push tush.
We don't QB sneak.
We pass more than almost any other team in the league.

I can't think of many things dumber than paying Creed Humphrey to be the highest paid center in the league.

Let his ass walk.
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BigRedChief 10:13 AM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Paying a center elite money is like paying top dollar for this offense to get a RB who isn't a threat to pass catch. It would be a terrible use of funds.

We don't run the push tush.
We don't QB sneak.
We pass more than almost any other team in the league.

I can't think of many things dumber than paying Creed Humphrey to be the highest paid center in the league.

Let his ass walk.
:-) you are lucky we live in a free country or else comments like that will get you thrown in the gulag.
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Delano 10:34 AM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
:-) you are lucky we live in a free country or else comments like that will get you thrown in the gulag.
According to your logic, you’d also throw Andy out too. History and current moves show the Chiefs are positioning themselves to move on.
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staylor26 11:15 AM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by Delano:
According to your logic, you’d also throw Andy out too. History and current moves show the Chiefs are positioning themselves to move on.
"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey :-)

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.
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Delano 11:28 AM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey :-)

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.
Evidence the Chiefs are giving themselves the option to move on is clear. 100% of the time he’s been given the option to sign a center long term in KC, Andy has declined.

I don’t want you to spoil another thread with your need to be right all the time.
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tredadda 12:20 PM 06-15-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
"Current moves"?

Please don't tell me you're clueless enough to believe the Chiefs drafting a versatile IOL on day 3 means anything about Humphrey :-)

Yes, Andy let Morse and Hudson walk. He didn't draft Hudson, and Morse had concussion issues though, so that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to let the best C in the NFL do the same. Do you honestly believe that Jason Kelce wouldn't have still been an Eagle for life if Andy never left Philly?

I don't think it's a guarantee by any means, but I think it's more likely than not that Humphrey will get a 2nd contract.
It’s not 2nd contracts that are bad. It’s the third ones more often than not. KC is more likely to resign Creed than they are Trey.
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staylor26 01:43 PM 06-15-2024
It's pretty simple.

The Chiefs aren't losing both Smoth and Humphrey.

The G market is out of fucking control. The C market is very reasonable.

Creed is a better C than Smith is a G.

Do the math.
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