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wazu 08:20 AM 08-08-2023

we haven't even had 1 preseason game yet...

and players are complaining to the HC about the OC behind his back...

and then the HC is airing that laundry publicly in the media without wholesale defending his handpicked OC

yikes https://t.co/1SsJiINoVj

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) August 8, 2023

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BryanBusby 11:16 AM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by tooge:
Why didn't Bienemy get a HC job? Lets see. He speaks in ebonics. He has a bad temper. He pisses players off. What else?
Ahhhhhhhhmmmmmmm
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Pablo 11:20 AM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Ahhhhhhhhmmmmmmm
:-)

He speaks in generic coach speak. Almost the same as ebonics
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Kiimo 12:07 PM 08-08-2023
CP: Why do people keep bringing up race with EB not getting a head coaching job!!!


Also CP: Maybe if he didn't speak like a black guy he would have a head coaching job!!!!
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KCJake 12:18 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by wazu:
This is literally the first good thing I've ever heard said about ol EB
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ReynardMuldrake 12:19 PM 08-08-2023

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DRM08 12:21 PM 08-08-2023
It will be interesting if the Chiefs offense gets better without EB in the building. Sure seemed like there was some tension between him and a lot of the players. Question is whether that tension was a good thing or bad thing. Time will tell.
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BleedingRed 12:23 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by Kiimo:
CP: Why do people keep bringing up race with EB not getting a head coaching job!!!


Also CP: Maybe if he didn't speak like a black guy he would have a head coaching job!!!!
Well his race does play into it. The reason he didn't get a headcoaching job can be multiple answers.

However,

I would argue on the primary reasons is, who the fuck wants to give the Chiefs ANOTHER draft pick?
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ChiTown 12:28 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake:
That actually sounded like a pretty solid interview. I hope it works out for him in Washington.
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Eleazar 12:30 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by Kiimo:
CP: Why do people keep bringing up race with EB not getting a head coaching job!!!


Also CP: Maybe if he didn't speak like a black guy he would have a head coaching job!!!!
Isn't there a flip side to this? If EB were white, would there have been a wailing clammor from every media outlet every offseason about why he wasn't getting serious consideration for a HC position? Would he have gotten so many interviews without the Rooney rule?

People continually claim that EB's race worked against him, but I'm not so sure. Maybe the pressure from the media and the league regulations did exactly what they were intended to do... get someone a shot they otherwise wouldn't have gotten.

It seems like the main things working against EB are personality and professionalism type things and how he relates to players, and questions about how much he was really doing in Andy Reid's offense, not racial factors.
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BleedingRed 12:35 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by Razaele:
Isn't there a flip side to this? If EB were white, would there have been a wailing clammor from every media outlet every offseason about why he wasn't getting serious consideration for a HC position? Would he have gotten so many interviews without the Rooney rule?

People continually claim that EB's race worked against him, but I'm not so sure. Maybe the pressure from the media and the league regulations did exactly what they were intended to do... get someone a shot they otherwise wouldn't have gotten.

It seems like the main things working against EB are personality and professionalism type things and how he relates to players, and questions about how much he was really doing in Andy Reid's offense, not racial factors.
I think his race did play a factor, but not because he was talking black or anything (what ever that means). But because no one wanted to give Chiefs draft capital (League gives it) to hire someone who might not even be calling the plays.
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Mecca 12:37 PM 08-08-2023
The guy who bought them was the 76ers owner when he said trust the process where they tanked on purpose for like 5 years...would not be surprised if they go that way.
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Megatron96 12:41 PM 08-08-2023
Lol, "he's too intense! i can't be coached by a tough coach!" Have NFL players become a bunch of pussies?


That narrative just seems silly. There's tons of hard-nosed coaches in the NFL. And college. Saban's no daisy either, from what we've all heard.



And btw, when your team has been shite for decades, when you haven't had a winning season since 2015, and meanwhile your new OC has never had a losing record, has won double digit wins every season of his tenure as OC, won his Division every season of his tenure, won his Conference five of the last six seasons, AND won two SBs in the last 4 years, maybe as a player you should realize you don't know shit about winning or winning culture, and just shut the fuck up and do what the man tells you to do.


I mean, I understand that some players would complain after only experiencing whatever low standards they were used to before EB showed up, but EB is going to demand consistent excellence 100% of the time.

You want to win? You want to change the culture and the narrative of your team? If they were smart, they'd get on the Bieniemy train right freaking now and cease with the complaining.
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Hoover 12:43 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake:
Thats a great frisking interview. I'd love that if I was ownership.
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BossChief 12:43 PM 08-08-2023
It’s not just the “demanding coach” aspect. EB takes it a step further than any coach I’ve watched work in person. I’ve watched him directly curse out a player on the practice field multiple times and I’m only there a couple days a year.

He’s a GREAT RB coach, but I never saw him as a good OC.

Kinda reminds me of when Haley got into it with Pollard…lol good times.
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KCUnited 12:45 PM 08-08-2023
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Thats a great frisking interview. I'd love that if I was ownership.
I bet he was profiled before being pulled over
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