Former #Chargers veteran pass-rusher Melvin Ingram is set to visit the #Chiefs this coming week, source said, the first visit for the veteran. After seeing him twice a season, KC could bring in Ingram to face his old team.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
He's had injury problems and declining production, and he's over 30. There's nothing speculative about that.
He's 247 lbs, which is very small for a 3 down DE in Spags system. Find me another guy who started and played all the snaps for Spags at that weight. I'm not talking about situational/rotational guys.
Ingram is more of a 3-4 OLB type physically. His best usage would not be on first down, and playing 50 snaps a game. He's not at that stage in his career.
You're confusing what you WANT to be true and what all of the evidence says IS true.
Still a good player, and would be a good signing, and can be a difference maker, but I think you rotate him out on early downs, short yardage, and early in games and use him on passing downs and especially late in games where he will be really effective.
Declining production? Last year he was injured for the majority of the season so that is not really a clear indication that he's slowing down. Before that he had four years of getting seven or more sacks. And as others have pointed out we play a ton of nickle so imo that undermines your argument when it pertains to the scheme and what Spags has done in the past with guys of Ingram's size. He doesn't need to play 50 snaps...but just reducing him to a pass rusher only is naive imo. As much as you'd like to ignore it the run d must be improved this year if this team plans to progress. [Reply]
Maybe you sign a guy like Ingram and draft a bigger DE like Basham. On obvious passing downs you can move Basham inside and put Ingram on the edge. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Maybe you sign a guy like Ingram and draft a bigger DE like Basham. On obvious passing downs you can move Basham inside and put Ingram on the edge.
If you aren’t going to have a great player opposite Clark, we might as well load up on several solid players.
Danna, Taco, Ingram. Might as well have several competent bodies to go with a draft pick or two. [Reply]
Worried about this dude’s knee. Justin Houston has actually been the far better player over the last two seasons (but may be more expensive/not want a reunion). [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Declining production? Last year he was injured for the majority of the season so that is not really a clear indication that he's slowing down. Before that he had four years of getting seven or more sacks. And as others have pointed out we play a ton of nickle so imo that undermines your argument when it pertains to the scheme and what Spags has done in the past with guys of Ingram's size. He doesn't need to play 50 snaps...but just reducing him to a pass rusher only is naive imo. As much as you'd like to ignore it the run d must be improved this year if this team plans to progress.
Injurirs are part of declining production, especially over 30. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
Im not. His game has really tailed off. Plus he's often injured.
I don't know about this. The 2020 season just sucked for him.
He had a serious knee injury last year and missed 9 games. He missed 3 games in 2019. That's it since 2014. Ingram had 42 sacks during the 2014 - 2019 seasons.
Ingram re-injured his knee last year so the chargers put him on IR a 2nd time. You can't bring a player back from IR more than once so Ingram spent the rest of the season not playing. That helps us(if we sign him) because he got extra time to heal last year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TEX:
Injurirs are part of declining production, especially over 30.
A freak injury one year shouldn't define a players current abilities imo. Houston was written off the same way by Chiefs fans and yet he's had two injury free years and 19 sacks since he left. [Reply]
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
A freak injury one year shouldn't define a players current abilities imo. Houston was written off the same way by Chiefs fans and yet he's had two injury free years and 19 sacks since he left.
nobody's saying it does.
Post 30 year old, 247 pound guys coming off a knee injury probably shouldn't be asked to play strong-side defensive end every snap.
As a rotational player on a reasonable deal, he's a great pick-up.