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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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KChiefs1 01:47 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by UCF Knight:
I wonder what ole Kietz is going to have to say today.
KSU has a 50/50 shot vs OU.
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Saulbadguy 01:53 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
KSU has a 50/50 shot vs OU.
I like those odds! :-)
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DJ's left nut 01:54 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
KSU has a 50/50 shot vs OU.
Bob Stoops has never lost consecutive regular season games.

Good luck with that.

I still think K-State is a product of a whole lot of smoke and mirrors with some excellent coaching and fortunate scheduling, but we'll know for sure by Sunday, won't we?

Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.
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kstater 01:57 PM 10-24-2011
Views from the bottom of the league.

By DJ's Left Nut





Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Bob Stoops has never lost consecutive regular season games.

Good luck with that.

I still think K-State is a product of a whole lot of smoke and mirrors with some excellent coaching and fortunate scheduling, but we'll know for sure by Sunday, won't we?

Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.

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Bowser 01:58 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Bob Stoops has never lost consecutive regular season games.

Good luck with that.
That really is an incredible stat.

Originally Posted by :
Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.
You may see some stuff you like from him when they wise up and move his ass to receiver.
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ChiefsCountry 01:59 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
(That said, it's going to be ****ing hysterical when the B1G goes in there and snipes ND right out from under UT.)
If Notre Dame joins a conference it will be the ACC.
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DJ's left nut 02:00 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
Views from the bottom of the league.

By DJ's Left Nut
Like I said - we've had a shit season. Our vaunted Quarterback recruit actually sucks at playing quarterback and our offensive coordinator hasn't progressed a bit from the moment he took over. This is a lost season and I'm just hoping to see someone on this roster actually progress over the next 5 weeks.

That said, you still managed to just barely squeak by us at home.

Keep puffing those chests out, but the hubris of wildcat fans through all this remains laughable.
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Bowser 02:02 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
Views from the bottom of the league.

By DJ's Left Nut
Why u mad, bro
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DJ's left nut 02:05 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by Bowser:
That really is an incredible stat.



You may see some stuff you like from him when they wise up and move his ass to receiver.
Or just run a wing-T.

He's the most tentative passer I've ever seen. He doesn't trust a single thing he does out there. He guides the ball and in so doing loses both his velocity and his accuracy.

We've seen him fire the football and when he does, he has some talent. But this coaching staff has failed him badly as he clearly doesn't trust a single thing that's going on out there. I don't know if it's technique, playcalling or a combination of both, but he just doesn't believe in himself.

He's killing us, just absolutely killing us. I hate it because he seems like a nice kid and someone that should be successful, but it's just not coming to him at all.

And I'm glad to see Pinkel finally learned his lesson w/r/t burning out a redshirt. Losing Franklin's redshirt did absolutely nothing to prepare him for the starting quarterback role. It appears that Pinkel sees that and is refusing to do the same w/ Berkstresser (though with Mauk waiting in the Wings, it might have actually made sense here...)
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mikeyis4dcats. 02:06 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Bob Stoops has never lost consecutive regular season games.

Good luck with that.

I still think K-State is a product of a whole lot of smoke and mirrors with some excellent coaching and fortunate scheduling, but we'll know for sure by Sunday, won't we?

Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.
butthurt!
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eazyb81 02:07 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:

Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.
Franklin's running ability is impressive. But of course that doesn't make up for his terrible passing and how turnover prone he is. He single-handedly lost the game for us.

I wish we'd run the pistol more often.
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Bowser 02:07 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
butthurt!
Ballsack!
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mikeyis4dcats. 02:07 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Like I said - we've had a shit season. Our vaunted Quarterback recruit actually sucks at playing quarterback and our offensive coordinator hasn't progressed a bit from the moment he took over. This is a lost season and I'm just hoping to see someone on this roster actually progress over the next 5 weeks.

That said, you still managed to just barely squeak by us at home.

Keep puffing those chests out, but the hubris of wildcat fans through all this remains laughable.
and yet you still needed a garbage time TD to pull it close, and an overturned fumble call even Mizzou fans thought was bogus.
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Bowser 02:10 PM 10-24-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Franklin's running ability is impressive. But of course that doesn't make up for his terrible passing and how turnover prone he is. He single-handedly lost the game for us.

I wish we'd run the pistol more often.
This offense needs a fucking enema. It's predictable enough as it is the way they run it, but once you put a QB in there that just can't run it, you're hosed.

I don't mind if they use the spread as their base O, but for fuck's sake mix in some pro-set. It's probably my biggest pet peeve of MU right now. Stale offense.
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DeezNutz 02:11 PM 10-24-2011
I'm honestly not even impressed with Franklin's running ability. Yeah, he's a good athlete, but he's too methodical in this aspect of his game, too.

Right now, he's a complete mess, which is unfortunate for everyone involved.
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