Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Tyreek Hill was worth roughly 368 points on the Rich Hill trade chart. (2022 1st, 2nd, 4th and a 2023 4th and 6th).
Davante Adams was worth 359 points. (2022 1st and 2nd).
You have to assume that Samuel would be below that value. He's two years younger than Hill but doesn't have the consistent production of either Hill or Adams....plus an injury history.
Correct.
Plus, any team trading for him has the leverage of knowing he wants out, and knowing he needs a new deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I don’t think it’s “denial”.
It’s just incredibly unlikely that the Chiefs turn around and trade for another WR that they have to pay top dollar to after trading one away.
As others have mentioned the Chiefs were ready to pay Tyreek top dollar until he wanted ridiculous top dollar.
If Deebo is willing to play for a contract that is comparable to what the Chiefs were originally offering Tyreek, why not make a move for arguably the best available WR? [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
As others have mentioned the Chiefs were ready to pay Tyreek top dollar until he wanted ridiculous top dollar.
If Deebo is willing to play for a contract that is comparable to what the Chiefs were originally offering Tyreek, why not make a move for arguably the best available WR?
Because he isn't. He wants more than Hill according to media. He wants to be the highest paid non QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Tyreek Hill was worth roughly 368 points on the Rich Hill trade chart. (2022 1st, 2nd, 4th and a 2023 4th and 6th).
Davante Adams was worth 359 points. (2022 1st and 2nd).
You have to assume that Samuel would be below that value. He's two years younger than Hill but doesn't have the consistent production of either Hill or Adams....plus an injury history.
Not happening IMO - Hell getting to 300 points would cost us a 1st, 2nd, and a 4th [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Because he isn't. He wants more than Hill according to media. He wants to be the highest paid non QB.
Money is not at the root of the issues for Deebo Samuel, otherwise that could be fixed with a big offer. But there are also issues with how he’s used. https://t.co/ZX7dKR2yik
Have fun with that when Samuel holds out. You aren't getting that unless a team who needs a WR in this draft isn't sold on literally any of them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Have fun with that when Samuel holds out. You aren't getting that unless a team who needs a WR in this draft isn't sold on literally any of them.
Or doesn't believe any of the WR's they are sold on will make it to their first pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Or doesn't believe any of the WR's they are sold on will make it to their first pick.
This is also true. Green Bay would be interesting because they have a higher pick, a bigger need for WR than us AND they were willing to pay Adams. Adams just wanted to be in Las Vegas more. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
This is also true. Green Bay would be interesting because they have a higher pick, a bigger need for WR than us AND they were willing to pay Adams. Adams just wanted to be in Las Vegas more.
Green Bay would have to SERIOUSLY outbid everyone else regarding draft capital for SF to send him there.
If he's dealt, I'd think he's going to the AFC or a non-threatening NFC team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Green Bay would have to SERIOUSLY outbid everyone else regarding draft capital for SF to send him there.
If he's dealt, I'd think he's going to the AFC or a non-threatening NFC team.
I think Green Bay is the only one out there that's going to give up a 1st round pick for him. The Jets aren't giving up 10 and I don't see anyone between 10 and 22 that desperately needs a WR and is willing to give up their 1st round pick for Deebo.
The 49ers will probably get their best offer from the Jets and it's going to be their 2nd round picks and maybe a little more. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
This is just so lazy. 4 of those 12 picks are 7th rounders, so throw those out the window. You don't think that we will have spots available for 8 players if we stick with our picks?
We could really use:
RB depth
2 WRs
An upgrade at RT
At least 2 DEs
At least 1 DT...for sure another NT
Another LB
Another 2 CBs
Another S
That's at least 11 spots that could use starters, an upgrade over current starters or at least depth at the position.
I mean it's not really lazy. Fill me in if I'm missing something. We have 76 players under contract according to OTC. 53 active roster, 16 practice squad. We're already over 7 spots. I find it hard to believe we're not going to sign a few more veterans, or at least hoping we do. Then 8 draft picks since we're throwing out the 7th rounders. [Reply]