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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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evenfall 01:30 PM 10-21-2011
More hysterical and desperate than ever.

I always have to turn KK off at the 30 minute mark, its just too much.

He is like Howard Stern, people just tune in to hear what crazy thing he will say next.
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bobbything 01:30 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
That is a piss-poor comparison.
No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.
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tomahawk kid 01:30 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.
Well the "They're DESTROYING KC economically" arguement is gone.

Gotta have something to fill the air time.
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beer bacon 01:31 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by bobbything:
No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.
Would it diminish the rivalry as much as KU refusing to take part in it?
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tomahawk kid 01:32 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by ReeTodd_KC:
so when is the date that you guys make it official?
My guess would be early next week via a press release.
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beer bacon 01:32 PM 10-21-2011
Next week is SEC week then MU and A&M play on Saturday.
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beer bacon 01:33 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.
Yeah, if he is so concerned about KC maybe he should move there and take some responsibility for its welfare.
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bobbything 01:36 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by beer bacon:
Would it diminish the rivalry as much as KU refusing to take part in it?
Would you continue to play KU in the state of Kansas if they bolted to the Pac 12?
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BigCatDaddy 01:36 PM 10-21-2011
Caller - MU is already middle to upper level of the SEC :-)
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Saul Good 01:37 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by bobbything:
No it's not, it's a perfect comparison. The "rivalry" such as it would become, would be relegated to one game per year. Yippie.

It wouldn't be the same at all. The fact that KU and MU are in the same conference makes the rivalry that much stronger. Relegating it to one game per year would significantly diminish it. The history of the rivalry isn't strong enough to maintain the day-in and day-out hatred these schools have for one another when playing in-conference.
How many football games do KU and MU play against each other per year now?
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|Zach| 01:37 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I appreciate Kietzman, a K-State fan living in Kansas, anointing himself as the voice of Mizzou fans in Kansas City.

He's now saying that Mizzou is in danger of losing Lee's Summit kids to Kansas because of this move. Lee's Summit is 90% black and gold. I'm pretty sure KU football isn't going to poach our targets out of Lee's ****ing Summit.
Literally.


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Pants 01:39 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by bobbything:
Would you continue to play KU in the state of Kansas if they bolted to the Pac 12?
Jesus Christ, dude. We're talking about Arrowhead here, not Columbia. The football game should stay if it benefits both schools financially. I would say the same thing about the basketball game, but I just don't think KU has anything to gain by scheduling MU in the Sprint center and taking another non-con game out.
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DeezNutz 01:41 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Deuces.
Dew says, indeed.
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bobbything 01:42 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
How many football games do KU and MU play against each other per year now?
The rivalry would/will not be anywhere near the same if MU moves conferences. You know that as well as anyone. The rivalry is what it is because they're in the same conference.
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Pitt Gorilla 01:42 PM 10-21-2011
The SEC will be less fun for the fans./KK
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