The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.
1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.
2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.
3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.
4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.
5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.
6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post.
6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.
7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.
Original post: You can ignore this now.
Spoiler!
Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.
The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.
Here's how the game will work.
Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)
Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.
Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".
Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.
Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.
Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs
If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.
There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.
I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.
So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.
Teams As Of Post #113:
Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)
Added Rules and Reminders:
1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.
2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.
3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent.
For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259)
For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.)
You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
So I take the Chiefs 53 man roster (minus their draft picks) and add in my draft picks.....and cut it down to 53 right?
Exactly.
Looks like you've got a strong team right now.
Back in the Pioli era, my team was notably stronger than the real Chiefs. Now, not so much. But that's a good thing. [Reply]
I'll just talk about my deviations from the Chiefs...
Tyler Boyd has looked solid with 20 receptions for 245 yards.
Rashard Higgins has finally seen action the past 2 weeks and has 3 receptions for 33 yards
Boyd gives me a solid 1-2-3 with Maclin and Conley.
My offensive line is a mess.
Fahn Cooper remains on SF's PS so I don't have a backup tackle. Connor McGovern hasn't seen any regular season action to date. Pughsley remains on KC's PS as well. Basically, I don't have an actively starting LG.
The Chiefs' dumping of Nick Williams leaves me incredibly thin on the DL. Bailey is hurt. King is on the PS, and Nunez-Roches just rejoined the active roster... Howard and Poe doing well, but man I'd have nothing here after chosing not to take Chris Jones.
OLB looks good with Matt Judon, as he has 10 tackles and 2 sacks on the year and is seeing increased playing time with injury to Suggs.
Josh Perry has been solid on STs for SD, so my 4th round pick isn't fairing badly yet.
I have just as much a mess at CB as anyone right now. White is injured, Russell was cut, and Kalan Reed remains on the Titans' PS. [Reply]
Offense - I made strides toward solving my o-line problems, which helped, and I have Russell Wilson and Travis Kelce. My receivers were banged up all year, and I had zero running game. I was probably a middle of the pack offense in the NFL, pressing Denard Robinson into service at HB and relying on my passing game and Wilson.
Defense - They probably were okay, but thin everywhere. I had a decent d-line and decent LBs, but little or no pass rush, which is fatal. I lost my main planned pass rusher in Week 2 and pretty much relied on Hali. My CBs were good, but all of my safeties dropped to injuries, which created a big hole in my defense. I might have been middle of the pack here, too.
QB
Russell Wilson (Seahawks) - 16 starts, 4,200 yards, 92.6 rating
Nick Foles - 1 start, not needed
Geno Smith (Jets) - 1 start, not needed
Brett Hundley (Packers) - 0 starts
Fine year here. I'm really glad that I drafted Wilson over Donald Stephenson.
The resurgence of Zach Brown made this an area of strength.
DE
Star Lotulelei (Panthers) - 16 starts, 4 sacks, 14 tackles
Brandon Williams (Ravens) - 16 starts, 1 sack, 34 tackles
Nick Williams - 0 starts
No depth, but good starters.
NT
Daniel McCullers (Steelers) - 1 start, 1 sack, 10 tackles
Michael Bennett (#5/173 - Jaguars) - IR early
Andrew Billings (#4/113 - Bengals) - IR early
Pretty weak here. McCullers played a lot, though, so I at least have a body. [Reply]
Now my question is can I trade my third or fourth for Romo lol. I have no starting QB thanks to AJ being stuck behind Dalton. Also Geno becoming a total bust. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
Now my question is can I trade my third or fourth for Romo lol. I have no starting QB thanks to AJ being stuck behind Dalton. Also Geno becoming a total bust.
Your team will never amount to anything unless you draft a QB in the first round. Or so I hear. :-) [Reply]
I enjoy watching all of you people struggle at QB while I luxuriate in the Russell Wilson era. I have some glaring holes on my team, but I have my quarterback and the rest is gravy. [Reply]
Rain man don't start you know I was singing his praises. You said because I forgot to draft that year so you said I had to keep that crappy Chief draft. This has screwed up my QB situation but I'm dealing with it. But for the record I would've drafted Wilson. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
Rain man don't start you know I was singing his praises. You said because I forgot to draft that year so you said I had to keep that crappy Chief draft. This has screwed up my QB situation but I'm dealing with it. But for the record I would've drafted Wilson.
At least you got Donald Stephenson out of it. [Reply]
It's looking like my major holes will be QB, DL, ILB, RB, and OG
Here's my roster preview...
Offense
QB Alex Smith
QB Nick Foles (Free Agent Departure 3/17)
RB Jamaal Charles (Released 2/28/17)
RB Spencer Ware
RB Charcandrick West
RB Darrin Reaves (PS)
RB C.J. Spiller (Free Agent Acquisition 3/17)
FB Anthony Sherman
WR Jeremy Maclin
WR Chris Conley
WR Tyler Boyd (#2-37/16, CIN)
WR De'Anthony Thomas
WR Albert Wilson
WR Rashard Higgins (#5-162/16, CLE)
TE Travis Kelce
TE Demetrius Harris
TE Ross Travis
TE James O'Shaughnessy
OT Eric Fisher
OT Mitchell Schwartz
OT Fahn Cooper (#5-165/16, signed off SF PS by IND 2/27/17)
OG Laurent Duvernay-Tardif
OG Connor McGovern (#4-126/16, DEN)
OG Jarrod Pughsley (PS)
OL Mike Person (In-Season FA Acquisition 11/2/16, re-signed 3/14/17)
OC Mitch Morse
OC Zach Fulton
Defense
DE Jaye Howard
DE Allen Bailey
DE Nick Williams (Waived 10/18/16)
DE David King (PS)
NT Dontari Poe (Free Agent Departure 3/17)
NT Rakeem Nunez-Roches
NT Bennie Logan (Free Agent Acquisition 3/14/17)
OLB Justin Houston
OLB Tamba Hali
OLB Dee Ford
OLB Matt Judon (#4-129/16, BAL)
OLB Dezman Moses (PS)
OLB Victor Ochi (In-Season FA Acquisition 1/4/17)
ILB Derrick Johnson
ILB Justin March
ILB Sam Barrington (Waived 11/2/16)
ILB Joshua Perry (#4-99/16, LAC)
CB Marcus Peters
CB Phillip Gaines
CB Steven Nelson
CB Kenneth Acker (give up pick #7-???/18)
CB D.J. White (#6-178/16, KC)
CB KeiVarae Russell (#3-74/16, KC) (Released 9/24/16)
CB Kalan Reed (#7-250/16, TEN)
CB Terrance Mitchell (In-Season FA Acquisition 11/25/17)
S Eric Berry
S Ron Parker
S Daniel Sorensen
Special Teams
K Cairo Santos
P Dustin Colquitt
LS James Winchester
2017 Reserve-Futures
OL Isaiah Battle
LB Khaseem Greene
DL Montori Hughes
OT Josh James
FB Will Ratelle
DB Julian Wilson
My Cuts Still On Roster
QB Tyler Bray
OT Bryan Witzmann
OT Jah Reid
OLB Frank Zombo
ILB D.J. Alexander [Reply]