I’ve seen enough. Dude is as meh as it gets. Pacheco needs to take his spot yesterday. Dude has bad vision and he’s slow.
I hope we scout the cuts list to find another RB to add to the group so we can cut him. Seriously the only reason this guy is still on the roster is because he was a first rd pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
CEH success this game is more a product of run blocking. Once again, he is pretty much average at everything.
Good game for him though.
I'm pretty sure we didn't watch the same game. I mean yea the OL blocked better but CEH found small seems and cutback lanes as well as broke tackles like he has rarely done in seasons past. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
CEH success this game is more a product of run blocking. Once again, he is pretty much average at everything.
Good game for him though.
That’s how I see it too. he’s taking advantage of defenses not respecting the run and good run blocking. Which is way better than last year. the eyeball test shows that he’s getting some yards this year in spite of shaky vision and pretty average skills. I don’t think he’s average at everything though. He’s actually been exceptional icing games for us this year. I like that he doesn’t take a lot of losses which makes him decent for shorter yardage.
I think people take exception to saying average is bad. He’s plenty solid. I just don’t see him as RB1. Against the same defense Pacheco had just a few carries under 6 yards. And I dont think Pacheco is remotely close to having it figured out yet.. It’s just that defenses are daring us to run and finally our RBs are starting to take what they’re given. I love to see it but I don’t want to overplay what our hand is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
That’s how I see it too. he’s taking advantage of defenses not respecting the run and good run blocking. Which is way better than last year. the eyeball test shows that he’s getting some yards this year in spite of shaky vision and pretty average skills. I don’t think he’s average at everything though. He’s actually been exceptional icing games for us this year. I like that he doesn’t take a lot of losses which makes him decent for shorter yardage.
I think people take exception to saying average is bad. He’s plenty solid. I just don’t see him as RB1. Against the same defense Pacheco had just a few carries under 6 yards. And I dont think Pacheco is remotely close to having it figured out yet.. It’s just that defenses are daring us to run and finally our RBs are starting to take what they’re given. I love to see it but I don’t want to overplay what our hand is.
The thing I noticed is they lined up in the I formation, fullback and played power football more then any game this season. He looks good in the I formation and it helps his vision. The running the outside zone RPO's is where the offense has struggled. The line was firing out not having to worry about being too far down field in case of a pass.
This was not a easy team to run on and we really made it look pretty easy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I'm pretty sure we didn't watch the same game. I mean yea the OL blocked better but CEH found small seems and cutback lanes as well as broke tackles like he has rarely done in seasons past.
Yeah, he ran really hard. Even showed a little burst around the corner (though it took a Forston hold on that run on the last drive).
This was arguably his best game, especially considering the quality of competition. He wasn't going down on first contact, he was typically setting up his blocks and following them well. He was getting what was blocked and then powering the pile for a little more.
It was a positive development. I do think there's something to be said for Pacheco breathing down his neck a bit. Because man, #10 runs HARD out there. And I think when someone sees that in the same room as him, there are clear lessons to take away from it.
Still feels like this is a failed experiment that likely runs its course next season, but if we can coax a little productivity from him in the interim, that's nothing but a good thing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
He still somehow scored a TD here, but if he didn't this should be magnified. I'm no CEH hater, but my god I wish he could learn to cutback.
If being a more decisive ballcarrier means he's taking that ball and hammering behind his blockers (which is how he scored there) then I'll take the occasional missed cut-back lane.
At a point you reach the loss mitigation stage of the program and I think that's where we are with CEH. That was a hard, powerful run that led to 6 whereas in the past he tries to sit back and wait for something then ends up tip-toeing into a possible hole.
I'll put this one on the "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good" pile. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
He still somehow scored a TD here, but if he didn't this should be magnified. I'm no CEH hater, but my god I wish he could learn to cutback.
Where was PM on this play? Was he lined up as a WR or was he not even in the game? [Reply]