Royals ***Official 2022 Royals Season Repository Thread*** - Page 402

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Cool.

Let him pay for all of it then.

Stupid.

All of these things add value to KC. He can take the team somewhere else if he needs to and KC loses out on a ton of great things. This is how this works, get used to it.
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I wonder with Dayton being raptured, if Salvy's status as untouchable changes... I doubt it, but I imagine everything is on the table now.

I expect a young analytics manager to be hired in tandem with a like minded GM.
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Originally Posted by nychief:
I wonder with Dayton being raptured, if Salvy's status as untouchable changes... I doubt it, but I imagine everything is on the table now.

I expect a young analytics manager to be hired in tandem with a like minded GM.

Salvy's contract makes him near untradeable, it's a ton of money for an aging catcher who's shown to have some injury issues.
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Moore isn't wrong about porn. Its some really bad shit for you. It's just a dopamine hit and makes you addicted to it. That's not religious viewpoint either.

It's a viewpoint from the types of people that think video gaming causes mass shootings.
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Wait. Dayton Moore got fired?

NOOOOOOO!!!! How's Matheny gonna fall below a .500 career record when there's nobody else in baseball dumb enough to hire him?

Eh...there's always the Pirates. They're always looking for a 'culture change' and now Mikey Dreamboat has experience 'rebuilding' with a young roster. He's perfect for them!
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Originally Posted by Mecca:
Salvy's contract makes him near untradeable, it's a ton of money for an aging catcher who's shown to have some injury issues.

These deals are what loser franchises do. I like Salvy fine and he alone isn’t the reason we lose 95 games. Obviously. But as DM admitted “we haven’t been transactional”. TB and Cleve rarely give out big contracts. If you aren’t named Jose Ramirez or Wander Franco you are on the trading block the day you arrive.
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan:
Props to those that recognize the immense difficulty in winning with a smaller franchise and who don't try to re-write history. Nobody "lucks" into two WS appearances back-to-back. That's just stupid and shows a lack of knowledge on how hard it is.

DM will be in the Royals HOF eventually. He should be. If you can't appreciate that, I don't know what to say. I'm good with this move and thought this might be the furthest extent of the changes Flanny referenced. I at least wanted the MLB level staff gone, sans hitting department. Based on what Sherman's been telegraphing, I was hoping JJ would be given carte blanche to do with the pitching department what he's done with the hitting department. I think that's all but certain now. I think Sherman inserts himself into the manager-search process and uses his connections for the pitching development aspect (Cleveland, mainly).

The favorite thing about this move is that all the bitches out there won't have DM as a punching bag for their tired middle-schoolish bible/porn/etc comments from their position of armchair, chicken-little GM. Those comments have always been nonsense. The caricatures were just out of hand and borderline conspiracy theory level bullshit. Nobody that high in a baseball organization makes decisions around the caricatures that have been painted.

Moore brought a lot of that on himself, by the things he said publicly and also through actions. Forcing everyone in the organization to attend a seminar featuring pseudo-science about the evils of something (which, by the way, is an easier, less risky, and less damaging release when on a long road trip away from wives and girlfriends than seeking out a flesh-and-blood option)... is just a tough look to overcome.

I know there are people on here that "blame" me for the discussion on this topic in this thread. But it isn't just me driving it. It's the organization, what it says, and its actions. And reaction to that by people who cover the team, especially on Twitter.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
These deals are what loser franchises do. I like Salvy fine and he alone isn’t the reason we lose 95 games. Obviously. But as DM admitted “we haven’t been transactional”. TB and Cleve rarely give out big contracts. If you aren’t named Jose Ramirez or Wander Franco you are on the trading block the day you arrive.

Lifetime achievement award contracts rarely work out well in any sport
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Anyone else surprised there wasn't just an announcement of GMDM doing something else and leaving instead of being fired? Seems like the owner definitely is pissed about losing but I'm surprised they didn't ease him out on the announcement.
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
MLBN really loves Dayton Moore.

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I will fondly remember the DM era bc never in my life did I think I’d see us win another World Series. I will always be grateful to him for his contributions to that championship.

Clearly it was time for him to go and I’m ecstatic it happened but at the same time I’m forever a DM fan.
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
Anyone else surprised there wasn't just an announcement of GMDM doing something else and leaving instead of being fired? Seems like the owner definitely is pissed about losing but I'm surprised they didn't ease him out on the announcement.

Doing it before the season ended, not having him just resign, not moving him to another position all that is pretty telling that he was just like yea this guy sucks.
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I think it speaks to an end-of-year review that did not go well for Moore/wasn’t heading in the direction Sherman wanted.

I’m positive Sherman was driving for more of the things he talked about yesterday and personnel shake-ups/wholesale changes.

Moore likely had a much more patient, loyal, and conservative plan.

Thus the public ouster that made it clear it was a firing.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Moore brought a lot of that on himself, by the things he said publicly and also through actions. Forcing everyone in the organization to attend a seminar featuring pseudo-science about the evils of something (which, by the way, is an easier, less risky, and less damaging release when on a long road trip away from wives and girlfriends than seeking out a flesh-and-blood option)... is just a tough look to overcome.

I know there are people on here that "blame" me for the discussion on this topic in this thread. But it isn't just me driving it. It's the organization, what it says, and its actions. And reaction to that by people who cover the team, especially on Twitter.

Dayton Moore failed at his job and the dismissal was long overdue. Regarding his religious beliefs and seminars on pseudo-science and all of that, very tedious to read the complaints. I'm a non-believer, and don't have much use for it, but find the lack of self-awareness of the complainers stunning. I have to attend crap like that all the time at work, and it is *not* Christian-based moral indoctrination, but make no mistake, it is moral indoctrination.
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Yeah the idea he was fired for a seminar is too dumb to take seriously. He was the same dude back in 14-15 and he wasn’t getting fired when he was going to the WS

Personally I think his tone deaf comments to Flanagan showed he wasn’t a good bet to actually fix the pitching woes . The fact Sherman didn’t wait 2 weeks implies he heard the comments and didn’t like them
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The thing is, anyone that knows much about sports knows rebuilding the same team twice is much harder. When you get a new job you aren't tied to anyone, those aren't your players or prospects, it's easy to cut bait.

The second time around you have attachment because you picked all those guys...guys like Dozier and O'Hearn can't be let go because Dayton Moore has attachment to them, he doesn't seem them for who they really are.
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