Originally Posted by Razaele:
You think Vermeil turned his teams around by yelling and screaming at guys twice his size? Because most people have the idea that he was pretty much the opposite of what EB is, and Andy Reid too.
I don't know how much yelling he did, but Dick was notorious for tough training camps
The only way this style works is if you win with this style. Otherwise players are going to tune it out in a hurry (especially if you can’t take criticism in turn).
It’s why Vermeil and Bill Belichick get the respect they do, because their style gets results.
But if it doesn’t get results, you become Todd Haley and out of the NFL in a hurry. The reports that Washington’s offense is disorganized is bad news if Bienemy hopes to get his players to follow his philosophy. [Reply]
He's always been a shithead. Players of this day and age do not respond well to how he tries to coach. He's like the black Todd Haley. It's why nobody wanted to hire him. It really can only work if you have a good guy bad guy type dynamic with a head coach (Andy Reid) and you guys are really good (Chiefs) [Reply]
Didn’t Tony G always wax poetic about how he might join the NBA during camp and skip camps during the Vermeil era? Or am I misremembering the drama? (I was like, 10, but was always worried about Tony G’s various holdouts). [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Didn’t Tony G always wax poetic about how he might join the NBA during camp and skip camps during the Vermeil era? Or am I misremembering the drama? (I was like, 10, but was always worried about Tony G’s various holdouts).
Hmm I don't recall that, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Didn’t Tony G always wax poetic about how he might join the NBA during camp and skip camps during the Vermeil era? Or am I misremembering the drama? (I was like, 10, but was always worried about Tony G’s various holdouts).
I think he and certain other veterans (Roaf maybe?) somehow worked out a way to report late or not fully participate, with a view toward saving wear and tear on their bodies for the season. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The only way this style works is if you win with this style. Otherwise players are going to tune it out in a hurry (especially if you can’t take criticism in turn).
It’s why Vermeil and Bill Belichick get the respect they do, because their style gets results.
But if it doesn’t get results, you become Todd Haley and out of the NFL in a hurry. The reports that Washington’s offense is disorganized is bad news if Bienemy hopes to get his players to follow his philosophy.
Correct.
Will wait to see the results before drawing conclusions. Not hard to see a newly installed Offense with an inexperienced QB probably looks disorganized in camp.