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GabyKeepsMeWarm 11:45 AM 03-22-2023
I've got a situation.

My dad died in May of last year, and I'm the executor of his estate. It's been a nightmare. He died without a will and sorting through everything has been an awful mess.

My father lived in Iowa, and he had a "companion" that he met online. I've been very skeptical of this woman from the outset, but how do you tell your 78 year old father he's being taken for a ride? His "companion" lives in New Mexico, and my father would go down to New Mexico during the Winter months. Dad bought a motor home and left it in New Mexico, giving her full access. However, the motor home was only titled and registered in his name.

Well, after dad died, I discovered this woman had the motor home retitled and registered in her name.

I've spoken to several lawyers, including the DA of the county in which the motor home was stolen, as well as the state police and local law enforcement, and I haven't gotten anywhere.

Law enforcement is calling it a civil matter, even saying that this woman claims my father gave her the vehicle prior to his death. It's incredibly frustrating. If her claims are true, which they are not, why did she wait until after he died to retitle and reregister the vehicle?

Every attorney I've spoken to is calling this a law enforcement matter.

It's like nobody wants to do their fucking job, and I'm at my wits end about this.

Any advice?
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htismaqe 12:28 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
If it's titled in her name that would be theft...
Yep. You're right about that.
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Dante84 12:29 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by Cave Johnson:
Proving forgery is hard, even if you hire an expert. That’s why the DA doesn’t want to touch it.
If the form was *requested* and then filed after his death, then it should be pretty clear he did not sign it.
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htismaqe 12:29 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
That right there says she either had documentation he isn't aware of that the state agreed as acceptable or she forged documents - which is incredibly hard to prove sans contradictory documentation and typically left up to a court to decide (civil matter)
Um, that's pretty much exactly what I've said in my post in this thread. :-)
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Fish 12:38 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
If it's titled in her name that would be theft...
I missed that she titled it in her name. My bad.
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DenverChief 12:38 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by Dante84:
If the form was *requested* and then filed after his death, then it should be pretty clear he did not sign it.
Unless she had a pre-signed title and just filed after his death - this is all up to a court to decide.
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GabyKeepsMeWarm 12:38 PM 03-22-2023
My estate attorney reached out to her a few months ago as part of the inventory for the estate. This woman could only provide the new insurance card and new title as proof of her ownership. The estate attorney told me that simply is not proof as there is no documentation provided stating my father gave this vehicle to that woman.

For all those who think I need to just be "Mr. Nice Guy" and happy that my dad had such wonderful companionship and just let it be, if you knew half the shit I've discovered about this woman and how she took advantage of my father, you'd keep that opinion to yourself. This woman is a con artist, plain and simple.
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DenverChief 12:39 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Um, that's pretty much exactly what I've said in my post in this thread. :-)
Sorry must have misread what you wrote...my apologies
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DenverChief 12:42 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm:
My estate attorney reached out to her a few months ago as part of the inventory for the estate. This woman could only provide the new insurance card and new title as proof of her ownership. The estate attorney told me that simply is not proof as there is no documentation provided stating my father gave this vehicle to that woman.

For all those who think I need to just be "Mr. Nice Guy" and happy that my dad had such wonderful companionship and just let it be, if you knew half the shit I've discovered about this woman and how she took advantage of my father, you'd keep that opinion to yourself. This woman is a con artist, plain and simple.
Keep in mind to re-title the vehicle she had to prove to the state she was authorized to do so - the state gave her a new title in her name -as far as the state is concerned she meet the "proof" standard to obtain title to the vehicle - whether or not that "proof" is forged is for a court to decide.
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htismaqe 12:47 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by DenverChief:
Sorry must have misread what you wrote...my apologies
Yeah, it was across multiple posts that I said it, though. You probably missed it because I always remember stuff I wanted to post after I hit "submit".
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Eleazar 12:49 PM 03-22-2023

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kccrow 12:51 PM 03-22-2023
I have a friend that's a lawyer in NM and, I won't regurgitate verbatim but I'll give you the nutshell from asking him...

Obtaining an attorney is directly relative to the worth of the RV, as the fees may not be worth it.

Probably best to file an ancillary probate in NM state court and contest the transfer as a court-appointed administrator, because the transfer post-mortem has to be done by the executor.

Prepare to know who paid for insurance prior to his death, who paid for the RV (was it him, her, both), was the title signed by him prior to his death, etc.

Generally, ancillary probate is court-supervised.

Hope this helps.
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Iowanian 12:52 PM 03-22-2023
I'm not a lawyer or law enforcement.


I think your best hope is to have Billay match with her on Tinder and bust her hips after a dinner of mac n cheese cups with cut-up hotdogs stirred in.
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LoneWolf 12:52 PM 03-22-2023
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Make her sign the RV over to you at gunpoint, strangle the bitch, wrap her in plastic, toss her in the RV, and put her in a hole in the desert. Sell the RV, enjoy your hookers and blow.
You just wrote TEKASHI 6IX9INE's next song.
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siberian khatru 12:53 PM 03-22-2023
I used to know a couple of guys in New Mexico who could've taken care of it for you, but haven't heard from them in years.


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tyecopeland 01:03 PM 03-22-2023
If she got a new title, the old one went to the dmv headquarters and is likely gone. My business takes titles to the local license office all the time to get new ones issued. From there they go to Jeff city and then I have no idea what happens to them. But I can't imagine them sitting on the previous one for very long.
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