What would you have done differently considering the way the board fell in the draft this year?
Round 1, #28: WR Xavier Worthy
Round 2, #63: OT Kingsley Suamataia
Round 4, #131: TE Jared Wiley
Round 4, #133: S Jaden Hicks
Round 5, #159: OL Hunter Nourzad
Round 6, #211: CB Kamal Hadden
Round 7, #248: IOL C.J. Hanson
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Personally, I might've gone with another weapon instead of Hicks at #133 and probably RB Watson at #248 instead of Hanson but I'm no Veach! On second thought, there were some really sexy trade up options in the 4th that I would've liked to see us tap into: Sanders, Franklin, Baker, Walker, Irving, and Wright all went in the 4th and would've been more exciting picks.
I guess MIA is getting roasted a bit in draft circles for trading a 3rd next year to move up in the 4th, so what do I know, but I would've moved up for RB Wright or Irving, maybe Baker, or especially Franklin if I could get that high up! Not too mention BTJ came within reach and I would've preferred him over Worthy, I guess. In a perfect world, maybe a small move up for WR Tahj Washington in the 7th too.
Round 1, #22: WR Brian Thomas Jr (2024 3rd + 2025 3rd)
Round 2, #63: OT Kingsley Suamataia
Round 4, #119: RB Jaylin Wright (+2025 TEN 2025 3rd)
Round 4, #131: TE Jared Wiley
Round 5, #159: OL Hunter Nourzad
Round 6, #211: CB Kamal Hadden
Round 7, #240: WR Tahj Washington (+2025 Late RD Pick Swap)
A+
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
He really is not.
I don't blame him for trying to get every dime he can, I'm just not interesting in KC paying him what he wants (which is about 2x what he's worth).
He's a tolerable WR2 and ideally situated as a WR3 at this point in his career.
Is that worth $10 million? Maybe to some teams. But not us, IMO.
$6 million with some incentives that can take him to/near $10 million? I might be interested in that. But he just doesn't see himself as a WR 2/3. At least he didn't a year ago. And nothing has changed on the field to indicate he's more than that, IMO.
He would help - no question. At least during Rice's possible suspension and Worthy's learning curve. But he's gonna have a learning curve of his own - has he ever played in a system that uses any of the Reid terminology? I can't recall him playing for a coach from the Reid tree. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He's a tolerable WR2 and ideally situated as a WR3 at this point in his career.
Is that worth $10 million? Maybe to some teams. But not us, IMO.
$6 million with some incentives that can take him to/near $10 million? I might be interested in that. But he just doesn't see himself as a WR 2/3. At least he didn't a year ago. And nothing has changed on the field to indicate he's more than that, IMO.
He would help - no question. At least during Rice's possible suspension and Worthy's learning curve. But he's gonna have a learning curve of his own - has he ever played in a system that uses any of the Reid terminology? I can't recall him playing for a coach from the Reid tree.
Technically John Harbaugh is from the Reid tree but that means jack shit to knowing the offense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
He really is not.
I don't blame him for trying to get every dime he can, I'm just not interesting in KC paying him what he wants (which is about 2x what he's worth).
Personally, I think he's worth a $7-8m deal and would probably be of more use than MVS was. It's not something we're super likely to consider so kind of a mute point. For this year only, I'd probably be willing to give him a $10m incentive driven deal to secure a stronger WR room for a 3-peat run. [Reply]
Ride Toney and Moore til they break or have mental breakdowns if you need any extra yardage on the side from your 5th WR. Get what you can from Watson.
Originally Posted by O.city:
No way I'd pay OBJ that. It's just a waste. You're not getting 10 million in value, so just do something else.
Let's say for the first half of the season he managed 400 yards receiving. Nothing exceptional but a pro-rated 800 yard season as WR2/3.
Then the rest of the season he gives you 250 yards (presuming that's when Rice is back and Worthy has caught up). So a 500 yard pro-rated second half of the season at a WR3/4 spot.
So you get 650 yards but it's more heavily weighted to when you needed him. Then in the playoffs he has 1 big game as WR3 where some mismatches underneath make him particularly difficult to deal with.
That's not worth $10 million. But it's probably worth $8 million?
He has value. And could maybe prove to have more value than $8 million if we have another blown tire in the WR room due to inexperience in the offense and Rice's Sammy Hagar moment. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Let's say for the first half of the season he managed 400 yards receiving. Nothing exceptional but a pro-rated 800 yard season as WR2/3.
Then the rest of the season he gives you 250 yards (presuming that's when Rice is back and Worthy has caught up). So a 500 yard pro-rated second half of the season at a WR3/4 spot.
So you get 650 yards but it's more heavily weighted to when you needed him. Then in the playoffs he has 1 big game as WR3 where some mismatches underneath make him particularly difficult to deal with.
That's not worth $10 million. But it's probably worth $8 million?
He has value. And could maybe prove to have more value than $8 million if we have another blown tire in the WR room due to inexperience in the offense and Rice's Sammy Hagar moment.
Sure.
I'd still try to bandage up and get that from Moore Toney Watson and save that 10 million. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Rumor from the free agency thread is that Chris Godwin could be a post June 1 cut. Interested? EDIT: wrong thread my bad.
Man, if that's the case, the Bucs will have done him dirty.
For a guy who's meant a lot to that organization and who's bounced back from injury nicely (an injury he suffered right as he was about to enter FA the first time), that's an awfully nasty way to treat him.
If you were gonna cut him, you could've done it prior to FA and then restructured some deals to cover the June 1 split. Or, I believe, you can still do a June 1 designation and let the guy pursue a new deal when there's still money out there to be made.
I just don't think they'd do him like that... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It all depends, I highly doubt Xavier Worthy hits the ground running and is WR 2 or 3 when the year starts.\
He probably has a Rice trajectory where he spends most of the year as a manufactured touch guy.
I think he will probably be effective sooner than Rashee Rice was, simply because his skill set should have a more defined roll in this offense.
Reid and Nagy kinda had to figure Rice out last year, and find the way to take advantage of his skills and what he was good at.
Worthy, to me, is a better route runner than Rice, and Andy knows how to use speed like his, and he will probably plug into Tyreek's routes. That should make the transition easier. [Reply]