Originally Posted by JPH83:
Man there's actually a lot of teams who seemed to draft well.
Just realize that more than 2/3rds will be jags at best for various reasons. Hitting on even 40% of your draft picks (either starter, spot starter, or backup) is considered otherworldy and hitting on you a third is a great draft. [Reply]
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
Just realize that more than 2/3rds will be jags at best for various reasons. Hitting on even 40% of your draft picks (either starter, spot starter, or backup) is considered otherworldy and hitting on you a third is a great draft.
Lol this is the funniest part of being a draft-head... most of these guys don't make it and we hype them up before they ever play a down of NFL practice, but it's fun. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
You must like Coleman better than I do. I'm a know nothing toolbox, but I think he's got slow feet. I think he's going to struggle to get open.
Honestly, if I were them, I'd probably have picked the kicker I wanted in the 7th. It's a bad play, but precisely nobody will blame them.
Coleman is the type of player who looks lost in our system but probably works for the Bills or a team like the Bengals. They'll take those 50-50 shots. I think both teams got what they wanted. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Lol this is the funniest part of being a draft-head... most of these guys don't make it and we hype them up before they ever play a down of NFL practice, but it's fun.
Yeah, and so much depends on where they go.
I said earlier this year that every opinion I give about a player's possible success is based on if they were drafted by the Chiefs and coached by this staff.
A lot of times we are probably right about players, but they go somewhere with a scheme that doesn't match, or coaches that don't use their strengths, or they end up somewhere that has really talented players above them on the depth chart. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Yeah, and so much depends on where they go.
I said earlier this year that every opinion I give about a player's possible success is based on if they were drafted by the Chiefs and coached by this staff.
A lot of times we are probably right about players, but they go somewhere with a scheme that doesn't match, or coaches that don't use their strengths, or they end up somewhere that has really talented players above them on the depth chart.
It's a little like the 'star' system for recruits.
A recruit may not look any better in October than he did in September but in the interim he's gotten offers from Alabama and Georgia. So ratings services will look at his offer sheet and bump him from a 3-star guy to a 4-star guy (or 4 to 5) based on his offer sheet.
At this point if the Chiefs pick someone, you largely assume they have something figured out there and that maybe this guy who you had as the 45th best prospect really should've been a top 30 guy afterall.
It's good to have smart leadership, fellas. [Reply]
I don't love Mims (and what Belichick said about his drive and how he had always dominated physically but never had much adversity sticks with me), but I absolutely hate them getting Burton in the 3rd. If they can keep him happy/on the up, he could be a really dynamic #3 option this year and excellent complement to Chase moving forward.
Originally Posted by kccrow:
People say a lot of bad about Buffalo trading out and handing us Worthy but they had a really good draft in my opinion.
I thought Tampa had a nice draft.
Steelers had a solid one.
I liked what Cleveland did with limited picks.
Overall though, I have to say I can't put one above ours. Veach was masterful.
Buffalo's draft will come down to how successful Coleman is.
I think he has some useful traits, for sure. But man, his inability to separate just sticks with me.
And he wasn't even THAT amazing at 50-50 balls in college. That's not going to improve in the pros.
I agree that nobody's draft beats the Chiefs. I think the Chargers had a good day, unfortunately. Though I think McConkey's injury issues could torpedo some of that. [Reply]
Definitely agree the Chiefs had a great draft and got good people at positions of need in rounds one and two and hopefully a replacement for Kelce in round three.
I think Philadelphia had as good a draft and maybe even better. they too filled their positions of need (DB) in rounds one and two and did so with players that are going to be more plug-in and play then what we got.
It’s hard to understand how Philadelphia completely fell apart last year and I expect there are some fundamental internal problems in the organization. fortunately We definitely don’t have that as an issue in KC. so maybe /hopefully their problems will continue despite WHAT was A great draft and great free agent moves (Barkley at RB and the return of Gardner-Johnson at safety.]
They did have some significant losses (Kelce retirement and Reddick to Jets), but I think their depth and planning ahead approach will successfully address those losses.
MAYBE WE WILL EVEN SEE THEM AGAIN IN THE SUPER BOWL NEXT YEAR INSTEAD OF SAN FRANCISCO [Reply]
After some time to thinking on it I really do love what the Falcons did and don’t understand the hate there.
Great year to draft a QB for them. Kirk is an old bridge QB that we know won’t take them where they need to go in the end, so why not? QB is everything. A WR or pass rusher can’t make the difference that a QB would.
Next years QB class sucks. If the Falcons want to trade Kirk they easily could and some team would gladly help pay for part of that contract. Raiders would gladly do that with their shit QB room, if Levis bombs the Titans would gladly do it. Hell the Giants would gladly do it bc Jones and Lock aren’t good. They can get a 2nd or 3rd back as well.
I was a fan of Ruke and Dorlus. Lord knows they needed DL help.
Again Odunze or a tackle or pass rusher won’t make a big enough difference like Penix could. Settling with Kirk winning the division as your SB is weak shit [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
After some time to thinking on it I really do love what the Falcons did and don’t understand the hate there.
Great year to draft a QB for them. Kirk is an old bridge QB that we know won’t take them where they need to go in the end, so why not? QB is everything. A WR or pass rusher can’t make the difference that a QB would.
Next years QB class sucks. If the Falcons want to trade Kirk they easily could and some team would gladly help pay for part of that contract. Raiders would gladly do that with their shit QB room, if Levis bombs the Titans would gladly do it. Hell the Giants would gladly do it bc Jones and Lock aren’t good. They can get a 2nd or 3rd back as well.
I was a fan of Ruke and Dorlus. Lord knows they needed DL help.
Again Odunze or a tackle or pass rusher won’t make a big enough difference like Penix could. Settling with Kirk winning the division as your SB is weak shit
I didn't understand the Falcons draft hate either. Drafting a QB you REALLY like when you're in a position to actually do so and letting them learn and develop for a year or two behind a really good QB has generally paid dividends for teams like Green Bay, the Chiefs, and Niners (Steve Young/Montana) who all had aging great QB's. Cousins will get them in or close to the playoffs, so they aren't going to be that high up again for awhile. It was a smart move if they feel that strongly about Penix. [Reply]
If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.
I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.
He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?
It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.
I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.
He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?
It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is.
That's my problem as well. Makes much more sense if you're taking a young guy like McCarthy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.
I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.
He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?
It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is.
25 IMO. I think the Kirk Cousins signing was made out of desperation but then they fell in love with Penix. I think Kirk is traded next year.
I think this was the year to try bc they have their pieces on offense. I just don’t see the value with sticking with Kirk. He’s old, damaged and limited. Sure you win the division but then what? Is that your only goal? [Reply]
Also sticking with the Jags pick here. Still love their draft. We all loved BTJ. Myles Cole and Jordan Jefferson were nice. I was a Jarrian Jones truther pre-draft.
Maason Smith showed some Chris Jones type flashes at times IMO. He was obviously high on our board.