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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2022-2023 NBA Thread***
dirk digler 04:02 PM 10-18-2022
Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.



Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT
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KC_Connection 05:05 PM 02-08-2023

His greatest accomplishment is getting a 73 win team to slut themselves out in the Hamptons for Kevin Durant.

That's what real fear looks like. https://t.co/5zLBCarmAo

— Barry (@BarryOnHere) February 8, 2023

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staylor26 05:16 PM 02-08-2023
"Only Lebron's allowed to try to create super teams!"
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Sassy Squatch 05:22 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
"Only Lebron's allowed to try to create super teams!"
Yeah. Of all the self owns that's probably the most embarrassing.
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RunKC 05:24 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Because MJ WAS the 72 win team :-)

How exactly is that a knock on MJ? :-)

He was the greatest player of all time on the greatest team of all-time.

More "faulty logic" from your big brain.
Didn’t mean to downvote this one. But man LeBron played in fuckin Cleveland. It’s no wonder he left for Miami
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New World Order 05:26 PM 02-08-2023
Lebron is 1x scoring champion.

Imagine if Mahomes only had 1 season of leading the league in yards/touchdowns.
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staylor26 05:30 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Didn’t mean to downvote this one. But man LeBron played in fuckin Cleveland. It’s no wonder he left for Miami
Nobody faulted him for simply leaving though.
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staylor26 05:31 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Yeah. Of all the self owns that's probably the most embarrassing.
Lebron gets a pass for trying to build multiple super teams, but his competitors are pussies for fighting fire with fire.

"Faulty logic"
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tyecopeland 05:46 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The only people who I see coping today are MJ fans lashing out defensively after LeBron broke one of the most important records in basketball history.
Why do you think "MJ fans" would feel any differently about lebron for passing a record that MJ never owned? If lebron had passed Michael for #1 then I'd understand why you'd think they were being defensive about lebron being #1. But as it stands it changes nothing in the debate between the two since MJ never claimed that title.
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tyecopeland 05:48 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
It's certainly a lot easier drafting a top 50 player of all time to your team in Scottie Pippen instead of having to carry teams with Mo Williams and Larry Hughes as the #2 guys.

Also, it should probably be pointed out here that basketball HOFers Dennis Rodman and Toni Kukoc didn't come through the draft.
Maybe if lebron didn't force his teams to trade all their draft capital and young talent all the time his teams could have developed some players.
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KC_Connection 05:53 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Maybe if lebron didn't force his teams to trade all their draft capital and young talent all the time his teams could have developed some players.
Looks like somebody isn't familiar with the 2003-2010 Cavs.
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KC_Connection 05:55 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Why do you think "MJ fans" would feel any differently about lebron for passing a record that MJ never owned? If lebron had passed Michael for #1 then I'd understand why you'd think they were being defensive about lebron being #1. But as it stands it changes nothing in the debate between the two since MJ never claimed that title.
LeBron adding one of the most significant records in basketball history to his body of work appears to have bothered them. I think it's obvious why that would be.
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staylor26 06:07 PM 02-08-2023
It's as meaningful as Emmitt Smith becoming the all-time rushing leader.

Absolutely hilarious that it means more to you than championships. More "faulty logic".
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tyecopeland 06:13 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Looks like somebody isn't familiar with the 2003-2010 Cavs.
The teams that only kept their first round draft picks for 1-2 years (one lasted 3) before trading them for veterans?

Or that didn't have a 1st round pick in 05, 07 or 10?

What were you trying to prove?
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KC_Connection 06:23 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
The teams that only kept their first round draft picks for 1-2 years (one lasted 3) before trading them for veterans?

Or that didn't have a 1st round pick in 05, 07 or 10?

What were you trying to prove?
Hold up, are you suggesting here that LeBron was in any way responsible for how the Cavs built those teams? How Larry Hughes and Mo Williams were the best players he ever played with on them?

Talk about your revisionist history.
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tyecopeland 07:07 PM 02-08-2023
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Hold up, are you suggesting here that LeBron was in any way responsible for how the Cavs built those teams? How Larry Hughes and Mo Williams were the best players he ever played with on them?

Talk about your revisionist history.
Any way responsible? Absolutely

Was he effectively being the gm all those years like he became in the lead up to his move to Miami and then continued for the rest of his career? No.

And I'd contend Carlos boozer, Anderson verijao and zydraunas ilgakus (spelling is wrong on those two I'm sure) were as good or better than the two you mentioned.
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