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cmh6476 01:38 PM 01-13-2019
too soon?
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Sassy Squatch 08:15 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
Agree- The front 7 talent is not what it was.

Chandler Jones was an economic decision but also him freaking out on pure THC and showing up at the Foxboro, MA police station 1/2 naked the week before we played y'all in the 2015 playoff game didn't help his case to stay.

I'm not saying it was right or wrong but I understand it.

With that said his departure allowed the Pats to sign a bunch of players and maintain cap flexibility. Since we won in 2016, in the SB in 2017 and here we are again in the AFCCG its hard to argue with the logic.
Must've forgotten about the THC episode. During the playoffs, as well? Yeah, it's time to part ways.
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RobertWeathers 08:18 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Must've forgotten about the THC episode. During the playoffs, as well? Yeah, it's time to part ways.
Attached.

https://www.businessinsider.com/deta...eaction-2016-1
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Sassy Squatch 08:20 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
Attached.

https://www.businessinsider.com/deta...eaction-2016-1
Certainly odd behaviour but at least he realized he was having a bad trip from synthetic marijuana and got himself somewhere safe.

You can't be taking synthetic marijuana during the playoffs, though. That's just stupid.
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Red Dawg 08:24 PM 01-15-2019
Yes, let's talk about the Patriots. They are dirty and cheat. Kraft owns Roger and makes the refs make playoff games go their way. We have better players and should win. We will win if the NFL is finally tired of Brady dick suck SBs.
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RobertWeathers 08:24 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Yehoodi:
It would of been nice to keep Jones and I would of like it. At the same time he was going to costs lots of money. We had McCourty, Hightower and a few others to pay at the time and you can only keep so many playmakers.

I do hope however the Pats do what we need to do to keep Flowers. We will see what happens.
Pay dat man hiz muney

-Teddy KGB
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Iowanian 08:31 PM 01-15-2019
Every time Mahomes throws a rocket bomb over the top of the aged Chung, I hope Arrowhead plays Wang Chung Tonight on the loud speaker.
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RobertWeathers 08:36 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
Every time Mahomes throws a rocket bomb over the top of the aged Chung, I hope Arrowhead plays Wang Chung Tonight on the loud speaker.
Dance Hall Days is a better song...but not by much, if at all.
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ThanksForTheLoan 08:37 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
Every time Mahomes throws a rocket bomb over the top of the aged Chung, I hope Arrowhead plays Wang Chung Tonight on the loud speaker.
Umm, that's probably not going to happen. You do realize Kelce has been removed from these games, partially by Chung, right?

The "aged"? lmao

I am not sure it matters what age a player is if they play well. Chung has been one of the best Big Nickel players in the league since returning to NE.

And, when he got concussed in last year's SB shutting down Ertz, that's when the floodgates opened in the SB and Ertz started burning the defense.

The guy is tough as nails, a great tackler and BB loves him as an additional coach on the field, which is high praise. You mocking a good player, only makes you look dumb.

You should be more concerned about how well NE's secondary matches up vs very mediocre WRs past Hill, how Kelce is usually removed with little to no impact and how Mahome's small hands at 9.25" in diameter in this cold weather, may be a serious problem as he moves right on almost every dropback.
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ThanksForTheLoan 08:39 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Must've forgotten about the THC episode. During the playoffs, as well? Yeah, it's time to part ways.
There is no THC in fake weed like synthetic. It's basically Angel Dust. Chandler JOnes is a moron and overrated.

NE saved 16 mil per by dumping his one tricky pony self to Arizona, has a very good GUard in Joe Thuney, and has won 1 SB since trading that one trick pony to Arizona.

Trey Flowers is the better all around player anyway.
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Sassy Squatch 08:44 PM 01-15-2019
What the **** were the Chargers doing?

Since week 11, vs runs from 11 personnel, the Patriots run defense has allowed:

• 61% success rate (NFL worst)
• 6.8 YPC (NFL worst)

Chargers ran from 11 personnel 4 times.

Damien Williams runs from 11 personnel on 64% of his runs. Averaging 5.2 YPC.
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Hammock Parties 08:46 PM 01-15-2019
LOLOLOLOL

We're going to pile drive those pussies.

Reid will shove DW up their ass for 5 yards when he gets bored of throwing 20 yard strikes.
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RobertWeathers 08:48 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
What the **** were the Chargers doing?

Since week 11, vs runs from 11 personnel, the Patriots run defense has allowed:

• 61% success rate (NFL worst)
• 6.8 YPC (NFL worst)

Chargers ran from 11 personnel 4 times.

Damien Williams runs from 11 personnel on 64% of his runs. Averaging 5.2 YPC.
Chargers are morons.

This was interesting.

In their earlier meeting, the Patriots destroyed the Chiefs from 21 personnel:

Passing:
•80% success rate, 15.4 YPA, 0 sacks
Rushing:
•65% success rate, 5.1 YPC

YTD:
•KC is the NFL's worst defense vs 21 (65% success rate)
•NE has the 2nd highest usage rate of 21 personnel

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/st...89173525938176
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Sassy Squatch 08:51 PM 01-15-2019
Yeah, not feeling too good about that. Only thing that gives me the slightest hope is our ILBs have been performing quite a bit better in recent weeks, but l still expect to get gashed.
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SupDock 08:53 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by RobertWeathers:
Chargers are morons.

This was interesting.

In their earlier meeting, the Patriots destroyed the Chiefs from 21 personnel:

Passing:
•80% success rate, 15.4 YPA, 0 sacks
Rushing:
•65% success rate, 5.1 YPC

YTD:
•KC is the NFL's worst defense vs 21 (65% success rate)
•NE has the 2nd highest usage rate of 21 personnel

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/st...89173525938176
Chiefs have a lot of different personnel now, and tend to perform much better at home
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ThanksForTheLoan 08:54 PM 01-15-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
What the **** were the Chargers doing?

Since week 11, vs runs from 11 personnel, the Patriots run defense has allowed:

• 61% success rate (NFL worst)
• 6.8 YPC (NFL worst)

Chargers ran from 11 personnel 4 times.

Damien Williams runs from 11 personnel on 64% of his runs. Averaging 5.2 YPC.
That's great, but when NE wants to stop the run, they do. Most of that stat is about BB baiting you to run to take away a passing game.

He's been doing that for decades, but it means far less in a passing league.

That said, NE has to contain Damien Williams. I say they do because NE matches up so well in the secondary against KCs mediocre WR group. They don't have to double anyone other than Hill.

You've wildly overpaid for oft injured Watkins, Conley is a JAG and Hilll, while lethal, we know what Hill does. The WRs are the Chiefs weakness on offense, as scary as HIll can be.

KC scored 21 points off of an awful STs play, which was a poor unit early in the year (not anymore), and two blown coverages on Hunt and Hill. The latter should never happen (single man on the slowest Safety NE has), so as long as they don't snooze bracketing Hill properly, NE can bring down a Safety into the box to spy on Mahomes and help with Damien Williams.

Your main flaw analyzing this will be thinking NE will look how they looked in October.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if BB has held things back in that game knowing this match up would be here.
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