Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Oddly, I'm kind of dealing with this right now, though I hadn't made any connection to covid (and I'm still not really sure that that's the case). I've had recurring upper back issues for years, and this is one of the worst bouts I've had. I'm trying to just be better about exercising and posture, which has taken care of it in the past. Your comment does make me wonder if it's connected, though...
It's probably related. Both my shoulder joints hurt and the pain went up to the top of my spine. The pain wasn't unbearable but it was definitely uncomfortable. I've never had that happen before from being sick.
Hydration, hydration, hydration.
The good news is that it sounds like you and the wife are going to make it through COVID pledge night pretty well. Treat yourself to some pain medication. [Reply]
My girlfriend just tested positive. I don't really see what the point is in isolating from her at this point. My test was negative, but it is only a matter of time [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hank Hill:
My girlfriend just tested positive. I don't really see what the point is in isolating from her at this point. My test was negative, but it is only a matter of time
Or maybe it's not a matter of time
My son had it. My wife and I didn't get it and we made no attempts to isolate or even take precautions. [Reply]
Originally Posted by loochy:
Or maybe it's not a matter of time
My son had it. My wife and I didn't get it and we made no attempts to isolate or even take precautions.
Originally Posted by loochy:
Or maybe it's not a matter of time
My son had it. My wife and I didn't get it and we made no attempts to isolate or even take precautions.
Wife and daughter went to concert in KC last Tuesday night. Friday my wife started getting really sick, as did her friend. Our daughter who sat right next to them hasn't gotten sick, and neither has our son or I. Friend tested positive for COVID, but my wife's test was negative. I'm presuming at this point she had it. At home tests aren't great. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Wife and daughter went to concert in KC last Tuesday night. Friday my wife started getting really sick, as did her friend. Our daughter who sat right next to them hasn't gotten sick, and neither has our son or I. Friend tested positive for COVID, but my wife's test was negative. I'm presuming at this point she had it. At home tests aren't great.
Friend was on a cruise ship Seattle to Alaska last week and a half. Started feeling bad on Sunday. Got tested. He has it. fully vaxed. His son who was with him shows no symptoms and tests negative. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers:
Friend was on a cruise ship Seattle to Alaska last week and a half. Started feeling bad on Sunday. Got tested. He has it. fully vaxed. His son who was with him shows no symptoms and tests negative.
Pretty much mirrors my experience. Started with symptoms Sunday out of Ketchikan, tested positive Tuesday right before disembarkation. So much for their " pre-cruise testing protocols" on cruise ships. [Reply]
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Some, but we still slept in the same bed and ate at the dinner table together. Watched several episodes of Stranger Things as a family.
Still nothing for me or the kids (12 and 16) today.
Same for me both kids and wife got it , my whole dept at work got it and I didn’t even though I didn’t really stay away except for wife sleeping in the mancave mostly because she was coughing all night ,i had to test for like 40 straight days at work which sucked . Since 2020 I have 0 sick days , not even a runny nose just lucky I guess . [Reply]
Originally Posted by gh4chiefs:
Pretty much mirrors my experience. Started with symptoms Sunday out of Ketchikan, tested positive Tuesday right before disembarkation. So much for their " pre-cruise testing protocols" on cruise ships.
I have a cruise planned in Oct for the same destination area and I was hoping the whole Covid thing would not be around anymore when I booked it months back.
If you test positive do you have to stay in your room? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
They are finally getting rude of mask mandates in Hospitals starting this weekend hopefully our hospital doesn’t extend it locally.
They just mandated masks for public indoor area's starting last week in the county next to mine (Bay Area).
Glad to hear their getting rid of masks at hospitals in your area. Seems to be a good sign that things are slowly getting better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
They are finally getting rude of mask mandates in Hospitals starting this weekend hopefully our hospital doesn’t extend it locally.
I'm really surprised at that. I figured the masks in doctor's offices and hospitals would be permanent [Reply]
Pretty certain I have it. But as of right now, it's very mild. Body aches. Stuffy nose. A bit of fatigue. My girlfriend is quite sick. They offered Paxlovid to her at her appointment this morning.