Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Any chance you can contain your political nonsense to the DC thread? I mean, not even your dumb ass believes what you're trying to suggest here. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
How in the hell do you make that editing "mistake"? Assuming it's not real, that almost seems like a deliberate attempt to mislead.
It's pretty clear we live in a world where people think that's acceptable. See: Clay. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Any chance you can contain your political nonsense to the DC thread? I mean, not even your dumb ass believes what you're trying to suggest here.
So what if they threw Ivermectin at it? There's no harm in that. Just throw everything at it if you have the means. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Any chance you can contain your political nonsense to the DC thread? I mean, not even your dumb ass believes what you're trying to suggest here.
There was nothing political about that post other than you getting butt hurt about it showing the queen sitting down for about 3 seconds.
Originally Posted by RubberSponge:
Covid rolled through my home starting about 2mos. ago. Wife and kids all had mild respiratory symptoms. The most annoying of which was a lingering cough. Me, emergency appendectomy was my prize. No other symptoms.
Glad you're all doing well.
I noticed last night that the country is closing in on 1 million deaths. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Otter:
There was nothing political about that post other than you getting butt hurt about it showing the queen sitting down for about 3 seconds.
I mean even a dumb gorilla can see that.
So, what was your point in posting that clip and suggesting the queen has worms? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
So, what was your point in posting that clip and suggesting the queen has worms?
Did you not listen to the other 60 seconds or are you just looking something to get your panties in a wad about?
"Otter posted a clip about COVID"(sob,sob,sniffle,sniffle)"and it showed queen for 3 seconds"(sob,sob,sniffle,sniffle)"and Ivermectin!!!" "I didn't watch any other part!!!"
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
So, what was your point in posting that clip and suggesting the queen has worms?
Pointing out the irony of the tribal mob who pigeon holed ivermectin as only being used as horse de-wormer while pointing and laughing like stupid chimps. Plus it was a tiny tidbit of information from the doctor if you had listened instead of going straight butt hurt because it wasn't a "get the jab :-)" goosestep.
Know what other drugs we share with horses?
Medications commonly prescribed to both humans and pets include antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, aspirin, and prednisone. [Reply]
I’m surprised this article hasnt been posted in here. I’d be genuinely curious to hear the response from people who support the use of ivermectin. Does this change your mind?
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In this open-label randomized clinical trial of high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia, a 5-day course of oral ivermectin administered during the first week of illness did not reduce the risk of developing severe disease compared with standard of care alone.
I just can't bring myself to care about ivermectin at this point. It doesn't work, but if it makes people feel like they're accomplishing something, whatever. There are far bigger issues to worry about. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I just can't bring myself to care about ivermectin at this point. It doesn't work, but if it makes people feel like they're accomplishing something, whatever. There are far bigger issues to worry about.
Originally Posted by Otter:
Pointing out the irony of the tribal mob who pigeon holed ivermectin as only being used as horse de-wormer while pointing and laughing like stupid chimps. Plus it was a tiny tidbit of information from the doctor if you had listened instead of going straight butt hurt because it wasn't a "get the jab :-)" goosestep.
Know what other drugs we share with horses?
Medications commonly prescribed to both humans and pets include antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, aspirin, and prednisone.
Just to be clear: NONE of that is political in your mind? [Reply]