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Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 04:04 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Pants:
Is this something one of the DeArmonds claimed? Didn't someone let it slip out that MU really wanted B1G but would have to settle for the SEC?
Could be. We all know how wrong the Dearmonds have been about Mizzou to the SEC. Maybe KK could fill us in on the details.
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Mr. Plow 04:04 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
So we want to use 80's and 90's results to interpret how relevant or competitive a team is in the present? No one on the current staff was even with the program then. How exactly would that be a reliable indicator instead of just using our current staff's results?

You are trying way too hard.
We can use Pinkel's tenure at MU if you want. Minus the first 5 years and this year depending on how it ends up of course.
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|Zach| 04:06 PM 10-19-2011
BEHOLD THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS: THE SUNBEAST

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday....s-the-sunbeast


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eazyb81 04:07 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
We can use Pinkel's tenure at MU if you want. Minus the first 5 years and this year depending on how it ends up of course.
By all means, keep the tough early years. Just goes to show how impressive the build was. Very comparable to what Radio is doing at ku, minus the numerous 40+ blowouts and starting out 1-10 in conference.
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Pants 04:07 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
We can use Pinkel's tenure at MU if you want. Minus the first 5 years and this year depending on how it ends up of course.
:-) :-) :-)
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eazyb81 04:07 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
BEHOLD THE FUTURE OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS: THE SUNBEAST

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday....s-the-sunbeast

:-):-):-)
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eazyb81 04:10 PM 10-19-2011
Even ESPN acknowledges how well Radio is doing at ku.

Originally Posted by :
No. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (Noon, Fox Sports Net): Last year's Sunflower Showdown was a 59-7 laugher, but the Jayhawks could build on last week's strong performance against Oklahoma with a win that would put a lot of faith from fans into coach Turner Gill. K-State, though, looks like a team of destiny through six games.
You guys only lost by 30 points at home! That's one the players will tell their grandkids about some day. :-)
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Saul Good 04:11 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Since 1991, Alabama has a record of 173-77....of those wins, 30 were vacated. MU in all their dominance is 2 games above .500 at 119-117.

I can see what you're saying.
2011-15=1996

I can see that you're not good at math.
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Pants 04:12 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by kstater:
Link?
You don't need links for stuff like that.

KU snubbed the SEC when they came calling.
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Frazod 04:14 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Even ESPN acknowledges how well Radio is doing at ku.



You guys only lost by 30 points at home! That's one the players will tell their grandkids about some day. :-)
Baby steps.... baby steps.

Someday, God willing, they'll only lose by 29. :-)
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Pants 04:15 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:

You guys only lost by 30 points at home! That's one the players will tell their grandkids about some day. :-)
I was surprised the score was 27-17 in the 3rd. Oklahoma has a beastly defense, there's no denying that. Our boys who have been letting everyone march down the field the whole season did step up. You can only hold for so long when your offense is constantly going 3 and out though.
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Saul Good 04:17 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by eazyb81:
Even ESPN acknowledges how well Radio is doing at ku.



You guys only lost by 30 points at home! That's one the players will tell their grandkids about some day. :-)
They should really use that momentum to show up strong against K-State. Oklahoma only outgained KU 317-216 in the second half. Of course, Oklahoma's 317 were yards, and KU's 216 were inches.
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eazyb81 04:18 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
They should really use that momentum to show up strong against K-State. Oklahoma only outgained KU 317-216 in the second half. Of course, Oklahoma's 317 were yards, and KU's 216 were inches.
:-) Oh wow.
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Reaper16 04:25 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by tomahawk kid:
'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).
Never associate an Auburn catchphrase with the University of Alabama again. That's the kind of rookie mistake that will get you laughed off of SEC boards.
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Sannyasi 04:51 PM 10-19-2011
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Minus this year.
Yeah, its a shame that we had to have a down year after losing 2 NFL top 10 picks, but that kind of stuff happens. Well, I guess not if you are Kansas.
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